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>>25305 (OP)Imperials won thoughbeit
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>>25305 (OP)>Playing the raisinty 120 GB version of a 5 GB game.I hope you at least pirated it because if you paid 60$ for a 15$ game, you are a true cuck.
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>>25336>I hope you at least pirated it because if you paid 60$ for a 15$ game, you are a true cuck.Seething Skyblivion tranny detected
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>>25305 (OP)The sense of discovery is just so good
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>>25336if you're going to play it the most optimal method is to buy it. reason being.
>it's the same game with UE5 on top of it>has all the same bugs as the original>all the same fixes can be applied and quickly>game is going to constantly be updated now that people have internet connections>mods are going to need a script extender that is up to datesay hello to skyrim 2 until ES6
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I’m waiting a few weeks before touching it again, hopefully they’ll patch out the bugs and if not modders will have fixed it by then.
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Why are the masses eating up this slop? I will never understand the general audience.
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>>25406it's basically oblivion, but it's now feasibly moddable. OG was insanely hard to properly mod, most of the mods are broken, the game had serious issues, and it's been mostly fixed, and touched up, and now has a good foundation to work off of. lots of potential.
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>>25305 (OP)yet… you're here…
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>>25324what's sad about Oblivion is the entire MQ is about saving the Empire and then they make it die in the following titles
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>>25411Is this a joke
There are no mods for unreal games
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>>25425it's not an unreal game. basically it's oblivion as the skeleton, and has UE5 as the body. somebody has already opened the remaster with TESEdit, and it works. there are a couple of tweaks that have to be made, but basically they can implement Oblivion mods into the remaster through TESEdit. there are already threads up about it.
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Is it true theres no mod support? I miss the vibrant greens and the bloom. Not sure if I'll get it because fuck Bethesda and Oblivion probably isnt as good as i remember from over 15 years ago
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>>25431at the moment the mod support is limited, but because of new discoveries made in the modding scene we will soon have oblivion mods compatible with oblivion remaster.
it's leddit, but it real
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>>25430It's an unreal game and no one will mod this raisin
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is there any good modpacks for the original game? seems very lacking on the modding side for a bethesda game, maybe the new game will get some good ones
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>>25438you're an idiot it's creation engine with UE5 assets which is why it can be recognized by TES CK
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>>25443https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXsoCvDb70Ihere. A painted world, or Heartland Redux for the original.
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>>25444You're an idiot no one will mod this raisin
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>>25443Ah yes famously small amount of mods on oblivion.
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>>25443But why
If you want to get your Skyrimtard urge out just get the unofficial patches and some levelling mod
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>>25449Screech poojoo marketer
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>>25448I think skyrim is better than Oblivion.
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>>>25430
you have no idea what you're talking about lmao
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>>25406never overestimate the normie mind
ocarina of time in UE5 by brownoids would probably completely blow their minds
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>>25406Chudnon, that the gaming industry is only growing with the state it is in should tell you everything
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Finally I can play this game after ranjeet took a raisin on it
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Until they can mod in alternate start and better cities, I'm not touching it. Those are my 2 mandatory mods
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>>25305 (OP)Errrrm actually it came out in 2006
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>>25513Don't blame him, he wasn't actually around back then
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Why are Skingrads guards pink?
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>>25521>Skingradsskin colour
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Just put in the difficulty slider fix mod so I can play on Adept for the slightly harder gameplay without everything steamrolling you. (In vanilla the multipliers for Expert are x3.5 damage taken and x0.286 damage given compared to Adept's x1.0/x1.0)
Also put on an achivement unblocker, I don't think mods block achievements (I only know console commands do) but just to be safe. Had to use script extender.
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>>25422You're not "saving the empire" you're saving the world. They explicitly tell you the divinity of the empire left when Martin had his fight with dagon.
God you kids are fucking illiterate. The point of the setting is to show the fall of a mighty empire because that's where interesting conflict happens.
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>>25564I never hear people bring up how, according to Cyrodiilic religious beliefs, the Empire appears to have lost the protection of Akatosh with the end of the Amulet of Kings.
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>>25569That's because the game itself handwaves it away by saying that Martin's sacrifice and covenant with Akatosh permanently sealed away Oblivion from Mundus.
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>>25576Yeah, but the Martin Septim isn't the Empire after the Oblivion Crisis. Him mantling Akatosh and preventing Dagon's realm (which is in Mundus) from intruding upon the sphere of Nirn doesn't change that, in the religious prophecy, Akatosh says that the loss of the Amulet of Kings would mean the end of the Empire's blessings.
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>>25579I should say more specifically, both the loss of the Amulet and the end of rule by a Dragonborn Emperor
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>>25581>>25579Mundus is surrounded by Oblivion, it's not Oblivion and Nirn.
Anyway. And it ended, didn't it? Mede's Empire is essentially a warlord rump state that inherited the previous' administration, something closer to Odoacer than Rome.
I do think that they wanted to make the change bigger between games (Uriel dying and the time skip is a direct break from the previous games) and chickened out at the last minute, but it's not like the Empire is presented as having the mandate of heaven or anything.
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>>25588i'm rarted and got Aurbis and Mundus mixed up
it's just that the Empire after the Oblivion Crisis is almost never treated by people commenting on the game as basically being a different entity despite the possible implications of Cyrodiilic religion
this is obviously important as concerns e.g. the Skyrim Civil War, especially given that that's a partially a religious war regarding the worship of Talos
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>>25599Eh, you know how it is, it's not like the devs put any thought into it, why would randos think about it. I'm sure you'll find schizo theories about this if you wanted on teslore or whatever.
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>>25579So much potential to go from this ending, Oblivion was always a great game. Even if I lament that they went more Peter Jackson's LotR instead of keeping the direction they went with Morrowind of a Cosmopolitan and large Empire with Cyrodiil being a mix of a jungle and Greco-Roman aesthetic (if Alexander the Great conquered and stay in India, this would be the type of raisin they left).
Anyway, it could go in good directions with this ending.
>End of the Septim dynasty>Provinces claim independence>Aldmerii dominion being more and more boldSo far so good, Skyrim was a good direcrion
>Chosen One bullraisin storyline all over again>Nothing interesting with the on going civil war>Dragons only terrorize one (1) provinceNot to mention all the problem with the writing and gameplay, but Skyrim could be greater simply if they sticked with the Septim storyline and its consequences.
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>>25608retconning the Voice being a cultural-religious practice in Skyrim was silly
the Dragonborn story felt a little weak
the civil war felt like an addendum to it that wasn't really well-developed narratively as far as being an extension from the previous game
<I really enjoy Oblivion, but it would have been nice to see a more MK-esque Cyrodiil with its mix of more almost Gothic-Roman Colovian aspects and southern East/South/Southeast Asian Nibenese aspects, especially given the history of Cyrodiil, how the Nibenese were at the heart of the Alessian doctrines, etc.
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>>25625All of these by MK, found in "Pocket Guide to the Empire"
This one is supposed to be from High Rock, presumably a Breton
The idea of East Slavic influences in High Rock seems like it won't be carried out given how heavily it's now associated with Norman-English aesthetics mixed with Brittonic ones now
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>>25608I made some outlines for a schizo Kirkbridean Skyrim lore based on his Talos idea
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>>25569>>25579>>25599>>25602If you ask lore questions we need to be on the same page.
The empire was started by a Nord in Skyrim who was a dragonborn. He was a general for a minor king in falkreath but because he was the fucking dragonborn that minor army United all the kingdoms of man.
The empire STARTED in Skyrim, but Cyrodil was the seat of power. Skyrim was to maintain autonomy and special privileges as the #1 ally.
The irony that the empire grew to forget this history, and attacked Skyrim. An utterly reprehensible action that basically shows the spiritual death of all symbols that gave it power. Nords were the source of strength for the empire, they fought in all the wars. The empire had lost all sense in itself to not only deny Skyrim it's religion, but to attack Skyrim as a conquerer.
Talos, THE FOUNDER OF THE EMPIRE would have personally tore the empire he built into an indescribable crater himself if he was alive.
Empire dickriders are the enemies of man who defend the most disgusting backstabbing ratlike behavior simply because they think the empire has mandate.
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My take has been that Kirkbride was a crazy nigga who liked his comparative religion degree to much, but flourished when he had someone like Todd to tell him to go back and make it a little less out there.
This doesn't work for Todd when the person whose ideas he's reviewing is someone like Emil
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>>25646Is he even crazy though or are people just that boring? Most of his raisin is essentially a watered down version of what I heard from my vedicschizo friend plus some weird fantasy.
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>>25646The problem with Emil is that Todd is a director for basically 4 different studios and can't manage anything.
The reason starfield was raisin was because they actually did not work ok the game for 10 years, it was a skeleton crew working on a procedural generation system for 2 years until Todd randomly said "we need a game, patch something together NOW". And threw a bunch of random bodies into the team.
After year 3 Todd almost released starfield at a point that would have made fallout 76 look amazing.
Microsoft forced them to keep developing it. Todd still wasn't directing nearly as much but even if he did they had no time.
Emil wrote the entire story in probably a month and left all the work to be done by Indians with tumeric stained fingers who were using Google translate for his ideas.
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>>25656If you read some of his stuff that never made it into games at all, like about Reman, you become glad that he wasn't the unquestioned final word on TES lore development, despite how much he's done to build the world of TES
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>>25661Yeah but that's still just mostly raisin taken from religions and myths and made into TES
He's only portrayed as le weird by monotheistic crakka kids
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>>25662Shut up curry nigger
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>>25662>>25656Who let the raisinskin in here
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>>25662It's not like he's lifting lines from Hindu religious texts to write
At any rate you look at stuff like Reman's religiously appointed concubines secretly feeding him semen to allow him to gain power and you have to wonder what MK is talking about and why
>>25664>>25666>>25668geg
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LMAO my (white) friend is just really into Vedas because he went a little too hard in the nose
>>25670If you want an example, taking Reman, the mountain pregnancy raisin is just 1:1 Kumarbi from the Mesopotamian mythos, it's all *essentially* lifted.
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>>25671I don't know if it's specifically inspired by Hurrian religion despite this, the severed genitals of a god impregnating some earth-body appears elsewhere in Indo-European and Near Eastern religion. And in Reman's nativity legend (which actually is in the games) it's a human king impregnating a hill, which is taken to be an impregnation of Alessia as the earth-spirit of Cyrodiil itself.
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>>25645>The empire was started by a Nord in Skyrim who was a dragonborn.If we believe previous source from Daggerfall and Morrowind, there is a certainty that the Tiber Septim was of the race of man however multiple conflicting source and in-game proof (lineage and ghost of Tiber Septim himself) conflicts with the narrative that he was a nord.
What we know
>He was a man and united the realms of men to conquer Tamriel>His descendants all grew up in Highrock until they be groomed and living in the Cyrodiil>Was elevated to god hoodWe also have him appearing as an Imperial in the spirit of an old warrior called Wulf. Conflicting accounts say he was an Atmoran King and therefore a Nord, other accounts say that his proficiency in war, magic and strategy meant that he learned the way of the Bretons and was therefor described as a man-mer (C0DA's Kirkbride).
His lineage however is Imperial, no longer Breton or Nord/Atmoran.
Its also not worth mentioning but all the raisin he pulled up with the Numidium in Morrowind, but thats just schizo rambling at this point.
What I conclude is that he was a man, more of a symbol and akin to Arthurian legend (ironically closer to Bretons than any other cultures of Tamriel). For all intense and purposes, it wouldnt shock me that in the next TES, some book will claim that he was Redguard which would only add even more to how conflicting his origin is and that he was instrumental in uniting the men against the beasts and mers.
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>>25682I think you need to get into his three natures if you want to debate his nationality.
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No oblivion remake sucks
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>>25691the triune Talos theory is itself a confusing rabbit hole that barely has any in-game text commentary
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>>25694common Cyrodiilic religion explicitly denies the theory, with Talos Stormcrown and Tiber Septim being the same person
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>>25682The point is that oblivion and Skyrim were both events detailing the death of an empire.
From oblivion the death of the last divine heir, to the literal end of the pact between the gods that protected the empire.
To Skyrim, where the empire betrayed their closest ally not once, but multiple times, first by signing a peace treaty on raisinty terms making the sacrifice of nords meaningless, then by banning their most holy God, then by installing a puppet king and violently repressing the true high king.
Then by going to war with the fucking people who fought your last fucking war.
The empire is actually worthless. Functionally it serves no purpose. The Redditors dickriding the empire when the game came out really showed how unbelievably stupid they would come to be today. If a system is bad, don't change or end it, just stick with it until it, kill your friends and cut off your family to defend a system that doesn't benefit you in anyway. hold onto a dead government until your friends need to murder you to let go.
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>>25693It's good nigger kill yourself
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>>25706The problem with the criticism of Empire in Skyrim terms is that they made the Stormcucks even more stupid. And not in a smart commentary on power way, just stupid.
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>>25706The argument that the Empire is still needed to protect from the Aldmeri Dominion is unconvincing given the ridiculous peace terms of the last war and the apparent loss of divine right to rule men.
Hammerfell also already got sick of the Empire and has maintained its independence, albeit while still de jure at war with the Dominion.
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>>25710How? Skyrim sacrificed a generation of men FOR the empire only to be stabbed in the back. All the men are veterans of a war that happened 15 years previously. The cities are crumbling because in that time the empire was taxing the raisin out of the population and not providing any relief.
I have no clue how you think stormcloaks are dumb, when it's a nation fighting for independence. You must be predisposed to libraisin boot licking
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>>25706Im personally all for the death of the empire to make it more interesting. Seeing how a post empire would would influence Highrock, Hammerfell, and Skyrim a lot more like how the fall of the Western Roman Empire made all the Western realms trying to larp and gain legitimacy through the Papacy by invading and granting claims by his highness the Pope.
We already see this with how even Skyrim is already "Imperialized" through his cult. The Nord pantheon of Gods are prarically dead and Ulfric and his Stormcloacks are basically larping as proud Nords… To reinstate Imperial Cult. Which is very interesting.
Personally, if I were in the writing room, with the death of the Septim dynasty. It would be far more interesting to see a Skyrim rebelling to reinstate Imperial rule but to also claim the Imperial throne. A bit how some generals and Federatii Kings did in the last years of the Western Roman Empire.
It would make more sense to have the Aldmerii dominion encouraging the conflict to last but not to be involved. At least covertly, because in game, even Tullius hate the Thalmors they give help to the Empire but at the same time tries to "imprison" Ulfric instead of wanting to executing him. As if they were planning to let him go or fake an escape.
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>unironic stab in the back myth
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>>25564Who cares about stories in video games? If I wanted a story I would read a book LOL
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>>25766Having Cyrodiilic religion replace Nordic religion over only a few centuries is one thing, having it replace it AFTER the death of Martin Septim was an odd choice
Really wanted to homogenise Skyrim and Scandinavianise it for convenience I guess
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>>25778Cyrodiliic religion being worshiped in Skyrim was pretty explicit for a while. The real cock in the balls is the Dragon Cult retardation.
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>>25305 (OP)Wish I was there enjoying it dawg, I impulse bought like a good consoomer, even though I don't have the hardware for it. Oh well, I've got an internet buddy who's selling me his old rig for a good price. I'll maybe get xbox series x performance e-e.
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>>25782The gameplay is walking around at night looking at the aurora and listening to jeremy sovl while hitting a vape pen irl then doing sexlab animations on heavily modded followers in your breezehome jacuzzi. Combat is an afterthought, just fusrodah and whack em on the ground
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>>25406I legitimately like the older TES games. Now that I'm older I just don't care for chore simulators like RDR2 or games with a hard skill requirement like Elden Ring. I just want to fuck around in a fantasy world.
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>>25795Was there ever a game as comfy for random fucking about as the TES/nuFO series? I'm convinced it's the only reason they're still alive as is, nothing ever compares.
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>>25778Not so odd, I mean the descendent of Tiber Septim sacrificed himself to save the world.
Ripples of his tales selflessness spread in the Empire
and his heritage of being related by blood to Talos or Ysmir to the Nords could have been a massive boost for the population of Skyrim to mass convert or accept the Imperial pantheon to their own Gods.
Where I agree with you is how they Scandinived Skyrim instead of being Central Europe/Gaul and further north its more "Scandinavia".
Making everyone in the province sharing the same culture from south to north is lazy. Variations like in Morrowind from city to city or how mainland and people of Vvardenfell contrasts was always something cool to see.
Its a bit sad they didnt even try, hell, the Forsworn who seems much more Nords than Ulfric and his faction are relegated as generic enemies to slaughter.
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>>25802It's sad they turned the guide to the empire West/East thing from cultural to purely political.
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>>25706I just want a war in tes6 so I can genocide altmer.
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>>25794The story of being a Norse Viking Messiah with the soul of a dragon and the will of man to free your people from a shambling corpse empire who's only mandate was a dragonborn for centuries ago.
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this early morning fog looks really nice
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>>25802Forsworn are more closely related to Bretons than Nords, though
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>>25799Fallout 3 and Oblivion are peak comfy, simplicity of their design really shines when you actively forget avout plot and try merge in the world.
As a kid, I prefered patrolling with the Outcasts and larping as them even if there was no content with them just because their was always stuff to do and see with the random encounters.
Same with Oblivion, if you stay long enough in one place and see the radient AI shine. You'll see bizarre and odd stuff that for some reason draws you in, instead of breaking immersion.
Maybe it was an accident, but the way Oblivion was designed down to its janky animation and being able to cheese any interactions through custom spells like charm, weaknesses and fatigue damage never made the game boring to belong in.
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>>25813I think he meant relating to their actual defense of native beliefs instead of simping for imperial gods
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>>25802M8 the far west is forsworn gaulic Celtic territory.
Solitude is empirelite, basically London
the northern states are Finland, Whiterun is Kyiv, riften is Croatian, falkreath is France.
The game was made to fit on the 360. The cities are small but you can enter every building and find a real quest. You're bitching about hardware limitations
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>>25816Oblivion has a special feeling to its cities that not many other games can compare to, even taking my nostalgia into account.
IDK why more games don't even try to use radiant AI. Yes it's jank, but it's jank in a really appealing way.
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I kind of forgot that I need to get enchantments or weapon potions to damage ghosts in this game
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>>25819>You're bitching about hardware limitationsThen its no excuse to see smaller scope or to rethink the design of the game.
Morrowind focus on Vvardenfell instead of the province Morrowind in its entierty.
Skyrim makes no effort to distinguish cultures within the local Nords with others. It literally looks like 14th century Scandinavia. I really dont feel what you, geographically yeah but its not the sentiment I felt when I came in Falkreath. To md it was generic nord village no more different than Riverwood.
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>>25834>I can't tell the difference between towns Because you're a midwit