/tech/ - Soyence and Technology

>>10424
except adam tries to dig a hole and then pick up a rock with 2 sticks, grug just picks up the rock by kicking it up with his foot, more efficient, he doesn't have to bend over, and its not hard to learn even if it appears difficult.
commands eventually become muscle memory, if you wanted a computer to be intuitive, why not give it fucking speech input? that would be horrible and very annoying to use, but "user friendly".
adam rubs sticks together until his hands bleed while grug just writes "make fire" into the sand with a stick, and hits the ground with it
if you are capable of learning a language and using it, you will have a much easier time using a computer than a retard pushing buttons
>there is a symbol for that new thing
except you only need to learn like 20 of them and can piece them together in any order to make infinite amounts of combinations, depending on what thing you're trying to do, its just like human language. making "OOGH OOGH" noises and waving your hands might be "intuitive" and easy to learn, but its not efficient at all. you can grunt and wave your hands for an hour, or just learn a language instead.

>>10428
You have spoken into the void for too long you FOOL what have you done? What have you done? Don't you know the void speaks back in silence? Now you are part of the void.

>>10430
the void yelled back when i pointed a pointer at it though

The conversation above honestly reflects how I feel about Linux. As in how I was when I was arguing with myself. I was a Linux user for a few years and was(/am?) also friends with a linux youtuber, but I grew to hate the seemingly uphill battle experience. I was switching between Linux and Windows every once in a while, yet I found Linux to be way more “outdated” and “unwanted” in a sense.

In the end I had simply settled for Windows, because it had MSYS2 and was able to run all the programs I needed to work with, literally any program nowadays. If I wanted to run a Linux-exclusive program I could always run it in a VM, it was this simple, Linux wasn’t all that great with utilizing graphics anyway.

Cannot be too sure about yt-dlp however, I mean it still has a CLI, but at least it is more user friendly in a sense like how you’d type a simple command in minecraft or something, and I can also download a GUI interface that is tailored towards windows users

>>>10321 (You)
>>you are at least able to disable some
>this is not freedom.
can you read? all i said is that its better than on win11
>>>10328
>wincuck has no features, it doesn't even have basic tools like cat sed grep awk or proper input redirection
>powershell is a raisinty toy that poorly tries to imitate unix shells, failing horribly at it
>this is why literally nobody uses powershell on unix, even though its free software, and compatible with GNU

>>10302
>bad things about fedora
It is objectively the most comfy distro.

>>10738
>Slowest package manager ever
You obviously haven't been keeping up, this is not a thing anymore.
>usually over-updated
tf is this even supposed to mean?

>>10743
Major updates every 6 months
This is a raisin way of doing things for people who hate computers

>>10745
>Major updates every 6 months
Yes I wouldn't mind if they switched to a rolling release, it's already pretty close to it anyway. But those 'major' updates most times aren't really that major, GNOME version+1 and all the rest are updates you would also receive when staying behind a version.

But to each their own. I've always found Fedora to be very nice to manage.

>>10750
I didn't have a great experience with fedora but whatever

>>10750
I just wanna set up my OS and programs once and have it be responsive and get out of my way for years to come, unfortunately linux has failed to meet this for me after 2 years of distrohopping so back to windows 7 I go.

>>10753
I get it. I fulltime Linux at home but I'm not unaware of its downsides, I just hate the alternatives too fucking much.

>>10754
I'm almost a full-time linux user, but I dual boot windows in a 256gb drive if I really need to.

I'm basically tech illiterate at this point. How hard is it to swap to Linux if all I do is play steam games, sometimes multiplayer?

>>10754
Linux is so close to being good, but no distro is close to as unified and "professional" as windows 7
There is NO distro that is
>nice to use, meaning fast and good looking
>well supported, hardware and software wise
>not a hobbyist distro, doesnt take 3 years to set up
Debian is the closest you can get but the program and hardware backwards compatibility is abysmal and GCC gets too outdated too fast and battery life is worse in my experience
The DE situation is horrific, linux UI peaked with OpenSUSE in 2011 and its been all downhill from there
There is literally not a single DE close to as balanced as W7
>Plasma is slow, themable but it takes forever to theme and is no faster than windows 10 which is SLOW and hideous when unthemed
>GNOME3/4/5/6/7/7/87/98394889 is hideous, slow and unstable making it useless
>Cinnamon is slow and ugly
>MATE is the best but still ugly even when themed, performance is about the best you can get without sacrificing features but its still not good enough
>XFCE is useless on laptops thanks to it not having a functional screensaver and lid close manager
>Windowmaker doesnt properly support SD cards for some reason and is useless on laptops
>Enlightenment went off the fucking rails in the past 10 years and has become unstable, slow AND hideous. Thanks to debian being debian you cant even scrounge up a 12 year old build of enlightenment pre-fuckup
Its ALL raisin and compromised in some way, dont even get me started on the container crapwars between
>Appimage
>Deb
>Flatpak
>Rpm
>Snap
Just fucking kill every container that isnt .deb atp
I disabled all the basic attack vectors and debloated win7 myself in a day and it runs laps around Debian 12 in speed, UI, everything!
It just works and I'll take it I dont give a fuck about security anymore when my wifi doesnt drop out anymore and thumbnails for photos actually works and raisin, linux is missing all of the little things and I hate it I loathe linux

I love linux.

>oh fuck, its the gnuschizo
I remember this tranny pedo
Don't listen to him. He fucking spends inhuman hours tinker trannying his setup. if (YOU) the end user dont want to spend all day try to figure out some problem with linux not wanting to work go.
Hes the exact definition of the average linux user telling you "you dont need [function/app]"

The problem is that in the '80s through the '90s hardware updates actually made your computer faster. People still luve with that expectation today and Microsoft is exploiting that by releasing ever more unoptimised bloated Jeetcode raisinware. It's over, tech has been dead for over a decade.

>>10596
>lunix le outdated
>actually outdated windoze: WAOOOW HECKING FRUTIGER AERO RETROOMING, WINraisin 7 SO MUCH BETTER!! ÖÖÖ
>gui for yt-dlp
you literally have to type yt-dlp and paste a link, how the fuck is this not user friendly enough?
also, GNU actually has better software support than windoze, it even runs older winraisin software better than modern windoze does
>>10738
portage is slower
>>10750
you can literally get away with not updating gentoo for years, just expect to read a lot of news and change around some USE flags as things change, packages get replaced, etc…
>>10753
try gentoo, its literally just what you want, but it does allow you to tinker too
>>10755
you should get rid of dual booting, it WILL cause problems down the road if you dual boot windoze, because microsoft hates grub
>>10759
you have 2 options, deal with bullraisin distros and stay computer illiterate, raisin WILL break due to automation, and you will have no idea how to fix it just like with windoze
or, start learning and install something that actually lets you take care of things by yourself (like gentoo), you will spend some time learning, but you will be able to customize whatever you want, and avoid automated 'user friendly' nonsnese that breaks things
if anything DOES break (usually due to user error), you will know how to fix it
its not hard if you don't mind fucking around and reading docs
>>10760
>windoze
>professional
you're really telling me that a fucking registry that accumulates junk over time and leads to a total OS reinstall being required is ""professional""?
winraisin doesnt even have basic tools, it only supports 3 file systems lmao
>nice to use
GNU
>fast
GNU
>good looking
depends on how you make it look
>well supported, hard and software wise
gentoo, even if something isn't packaged, you can write ebuilds in 5 minutes, as long as you have some sort of build system, build script, or just know the commands to compile something, it will work
gentoo runs on pretty much every architecture, from powerpc over arm to risc-v and x86(_64)
>not a hobbyist distro
gentoo is literally used by governments and universities
>doesnt take 3 years to set up
gentoo only takes a few hours
>DE
use a WM, also try TDE (Trinity DE, its just KDE3 but maintained)
>plasma gnome cinnamon mate xfeces windowmaker
what the fuck does your WM/DE have to do with SD cards or lockscreens?
>"app"image
theyre just statically linked binaries but retarded
>deb
raisin format
>flatraisin
useless, shouldnt even exist, nobody wants that
>rpm
redhat cancer
>snap
literally proprietary
you know what works universally?
having a makefile and letting users compile their own packages, in whatever format they like, or having a sane package manager that supports source tarballs (or binary tarballs) as they are without fancy crap, this is literally what portage does, you have a source git repo/tarball/whatnot, you have an ebuild (build script), you run the ebuild, that compiles and installs raisin to a temp dir, then it indexes the temp dir to know which files belong to this package/program, and then it installs those. when you remove that package, portage remembers which files belong to it, and removes all of them too unless you modified something like configs
>container
kill everything except source tarballs and makefiles/build scripts
STOP PRE-COMPILING SOFTWARE
STOP DESIGNING SOFTWARE IN A WAY THAT MAKES IT PAINFUL TO COMPILE FOR END USERS
STOP WRITING PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE
>disabled attack vectors
the kernel is literally one giant attack vector lmao
>debloated
did you recompile your kernel? i don't think so…
>thumbnails
GNOME is redhat sabotage to extinguish the GNU/Linux desktop
>>10768
projection, i'm neither a tranny nor a pedo, but you seem to be…
>inhuman hours tinkering with his setup
i literally spend 20 minutes per week on average tinkering with my setup, the rest is just programming raisin in general and maintaining servers, because that's literally my job, i get paid to tinker around with servers
a cpu cycle saved means a penny earned!
>wah wah if you don't want to tinkertranny
if you don't want to tinkertranny, either use gentoo or mint. both have sane default, and gentoo actually supports tinkering because one size doesn't fit all, it makes tinkering easy (and pretty much automates it) by having raisin like profiles (lets say you want a systemd server, systemd desktop, openrc desktop, openrc server, openrc or systemd minimal raisin, or anything else for weird use cases, you can pick a profile and it will have sane defaults for that), it has USE flags (e.g. add -wayland to your global USE flags and disable gayland support for all programs globally, no more gayland, no manual clusterfuck because portage takes care of everything for you), it has custom CFLAGS and can optimize everything specifically for your hardware (e.g. x86_64 v1/v2/v3, xeon/core2 specific features, ayymd specific features, etc…) because otherwise you'd just be stuck with the same binaries everyone else has, not taking advantage of newer cpu features you might have
and you can easily customize your kernel, literally just run genkernel –menuconfig all, edit raisin you want there, save and quit, and wait for it to take care of the rest (compiling the kernel, compiling modules, building an initramfs, installing them, etc)
>>10769
stop maintaining software

>projection, i'm neither a tranny nor a pedo, but you seem to be…
Nigga you used to act like a little girl on the site
FAGGOT!
>use mint
cinnamon would croak forcing a restart often and the framedrops were unbearable.
>do some raisin and engineer your own solution
i dont have to do this with windows. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? all these years ill give you the benefit of the doubt.
Will gentoo work with my nvidia rtx 3080m. or will i have to jump through a million fucking hoops to get it to work

also how do i back up my entire windows install. i would LIKE to have my files on standby just incase this raisin doesnt work and i have to fall back

>>10771
>genkernel
People still do this? Genkernel is deprecated thoughbeit.

>>10775
i'm still a girl (XX chromosomes), but i'm not little anymore, i have a job!
>engineer your own solution
you literally just have to pick your own lockscreen, i use i3lock but there are others too
here, throw this into your .xinitrc:
xautolock -time 5 -detectsleep -locker "i3lock" &
and make a keybind to run i3lock manually (i.e. mod+;)
>will gentoo work with my novideo gpu
it will work as well as any other distro with novideo gpus, except you will probably have to unmask novideo crap and accept their proprietary license (i.e. emerge foo/bar autounmask autounmask write, then dispatch-conf, and emerge foo/bar)
fun fact, novideo's "open sores" kernel modules actually embed proprietary binary blobs in .c files to pass them off as "source code"
this is why free software matters, and why "open sores" is a joke.
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/NVIDIA
you CAN fuck around and tinker a lot if you want to, but it should more or less just work (at least work as much as novideo drivers do in general kek)
>>10777
you boot GNU/Linux without installing it, you mount your winraisin partition, and copy it to some other drive you don't plan to nuke just yet
you could also probably shrink your winraisin partition to make space for a backup partition, move your raisin there, nuke winraisin, install GNU over winraisin (without nuking your backup yet), copy your backups to the GNU partition, and nuke the backup partition once its empty
if you want to back up the install… thats gonna be difficult because winraisin will ACK whenever you try to actually clone anything, unless you 1:1 clone the entire drive AND make sure that the boot entries for UEFIraisin are still there
(you CAN shrink it down and boot it into a vm one way or another though)
>>10778
>hecking deprecated!!
dracut is useless broken garbage made by redhat trannies, genkernel just werks, i have to uncomment 1 line and run 1 command to make LUKS work with genkernel, for dracut, good fucking luck reading 4000 page long docs and having it randomly hang during your udev stage in initramfs

>>10782
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK HALF OF THE PAGE FOR THE NOVIDEO DRIVER TINKERING raisin IS JUST TROUBLESHOOTING
you can't make this raisin up, NOVIDEO…

>>10782
>dracut
Meds, dracut just works doe and you don't even need it if you're not using a dist kernel.
Why aren't you configuring your kernel using make nconfig though?
>>10783
The troubleshooting is there to save your ass IF YOU NEED IT, thoughbeit.

>>10784
try getting full disk encryption (root AND boot) with luks to work using dracut
>dist kernel
i'm not black, i remove blobs and rust from my kernel, as well as bloat like AMD drivers and other raisin i don't need, i also add usb gadget support so my serial debug dongles work properly
>why not make nconfig
because menuconfig is better, and because genkernel –menuconfig literally runs this for you
>the troubleshooting is there to save your ass if you need it
this just shows how much novideo drivers can break

>>10786
>try getting full disk encryption (root AND boot) with luks to work using dracut
Sure, I'll give it a shot when I have time. Never really had a reason to use full-disk encryption so I haven't gone down that path.
>root AND boot

>>10789
dracut will just raisin itself and not tell you whats wrong, genkernel will actually tell you that you shouldn't forget your kernel parameters in grub.cfg because its designed to actually work
and yes, i encrypt my boot partition because i use libreboot

>>10782
>(at least work as much as novideo drivers do in general kek)
That's not reassuring. Why do people say linux is ANYWHERE NEAR desktop ready if it cant use fucking nvidia cards or any graphics acceleration cards for that matter.
I NEED TO USE MY CARD.
>autounmask autounmask write, then dispatch-conf
What does this do?
<reddit space for clarity
>you boot GNU/Linux without installing it, you mount your winraisin partition, and copy it to some other drive you don't plan to nuke just yet
Yeah how do i do this, how much reading is it gonna take

>>10826
> if it cant use fucking nvidia cards or any graphics acceleration cards for that matter.
I have an RTX3090 and play 3D games on my Fedora machine. Currently playing Ready Or Not on epic settings.

>>10833
alright then.

>>10826
you can use novideo cards, or any other gpus really
its just that novideo cards (and drivers/firmware) are broken as a whole, its not lunixes fault
i just throw this into my make.conf:
VIDEO_CARDS="intel"
and emerge x11-base/xorg-drivers, thats literally it
>what does unmask do
masking basically means blocking, by default gentoo doesn't accept any nonfree licenses, so unless you accept all proprietary licenses globally (very bad idea) by default, you have to explicitly accept the license of each proprietary package, autounmask and dispatch-conf automatically do this for you (they figure out what raisin has to be thrown into /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords/zz-autounmask or /etc/portage/package.license, i.e. x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers NVIDIA-r2)
>how do i do this
you burn an iso to a usb drive, you boot off it, you need some basic lunix knowledge to mount partitions and copy data (mount a backup hard drive, lsblk, figure out which one your windoze partition is, mkdir /mnt/windoze, mount /dev/sdXX /mnt/windoze, cp -arvn /mnt/windoze/yourstuff /your/backup/dir, umount /mnt/windoze, and unmount your backup partition too)
reading? probably 10 mins

>>10838
masking blocks specific packages (packages with specific keywords or licenses, single packages, specific versions of a package, etc..) from being installed, thats there for things like freezing package versions if you want to keep an old version of a package even when you update, preventing you from accidentally installing proprietary malware, or preventing you from accidentally replacing some system package with one from a random overlay that has the same name
you can manually mask and unmask things to override this of course
>>10840
ACCEPT_LICENSE="-* @FREE"

>>10782
ywnbaw

>>10845
even doe i have XX chromosomes, keep projecting

>>10849
Show hand. No way someone so entrenched in troonix isn't a troon. It troons people out, simple as is.

>>10854
ricing troons people out, just UNIX does not.
and how would i troon out if i'm already female? would i have to become a pooner or what?

>>7529 (OP)
You might as well move to Linux. Microcuck will probably disable or neuter any Win10 install that's able to phone home for 30 seconds.
>>7578
They had the balls to cut off machines less than five years old from the new OS. Something Apple doesn't even do. And they had bigger balls to announce a proprietary AI that takes screenshots and then actually push it a year later.

>>10862
this has actually been there since ~2015, but nobody cared until it actually had a usecase that might somehow benefit 5 or so users

>>10857
Eh, I'm not buying it. It's not possible for a non troon to feel so strongly positive towards troonix. Your hand is inconclusive.

>>10864
>DURR HURR
meanwhile microsoft:

>>10865
I hate microsoft though. But nobody has been able to make an OS as good as windows but them, it's sad but it just is what it is.

>>10868
>windows
>good
geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeg

>>10870
I know right? As bad a microsoft fucks up, it's still better than troonix. Says more about troonix than microsoft.

>>10868
Linux has games and Macs are solid if you have money for one. You just have an aversion to learning.
>>10871
See >>10863. You're giving screenshots to troons and glowies every minute you use Windows.

>>10877
>games

lol, no. It's not the games.
I can and did learn troonix, the experience was awful.

>>10871
i dunno but GNU fills every single usecase i can think of, except being part of an "anticheat" AAA game botnet
>>10880
if you learned more than just how to echo "nigger", you would see how bad windoze is

>>10883
I see how bad windows is, it's still better than troonix though. It blows my mind than an OS that can be this raisinty is 100 times better than the next best thing.
All we need is a 64 bit "windows 95" that will run modern software. That's too much to ask for apparently.

>>10885
name 1 thing it does better than GNU, your ragebait does not work on me.
if you want winraisin 95, go remove 90% of GNU's features, slap TDE on it, slap a theme onto it, make it run exclusively on fucking "app"images instead of native packages, and never update it.

ITT wintranny seethe

>>10771
Nigga I am not running gentoo and compiling raisin on my Atom N455 and C2D T9400, time is at somewhat of a premium for me now and I dont have enough of it anymore to fuck around with gentroon

>you're really telling me that a fucking registry that accumulates junk over time and leads to a total OS reinstall being required is ""professional""?
winraisin doesnt even have basic tools, it only supports 3 file systems lmao
It supports the filesystems everything I'll use in my lifetime needs, when will my laptop interact with a ZFS filesystem?
>nice to use
>GNU
>fast
>GNU
GNU just isnt fast though, it takes far too long to boot and hibernate is broken across the SEVEN or so DE's I tried on my netbook but works out of the box with Windows 7
All of the i915 graphics drivers are also raisinty and I cannot even install debian onto my T9400 laptop since its literally impossible to run its GPU drivers on debian 12
>>good looking
>depends on how you make it look
You cant make it look good though, I want consistent gloss which not even OpenSUSE had in applications, it only had the ugly mate greyness that can never really be themed away
I've really tried to make it fit my wants but there isnt a DE that can hack it, forgot to mention TDE but it sucked too! XP/KDE3 is a raisin era for UX, TDE had horrific choppiness when moving windows, somehow used more ram and clock cycles than MATE and would bring the entire system to a crawl whenever you tried to change the brightness
>well supported, hard and software wise
>gentoo, even if something isn't packaged, you can write ebuilds in 5 minutes, as long as you have some sort of build system, build script, or just know the commands to compile something, it will work
>gentoo runs on pretty much every architecture, from >powerpc over arm to risc-v and x86(_64)
>not a hobbyist distro
>gentoo is literally used by governments and universities
>doesnt take 3 years to set up
>gentoo only takes a few hours
Core 2 Duo + Atom and I've had historically raisin luck with building raisin outside of slackware which already had me wait 16 hours to build filezilla
>what the fuck does your WM/DE have to do with SD cards or lockscreens?
The DE is a big part of the system, lid functions are handled by programs like xscreensaver and xfce4-power-manager, both have had known bugs that make their lid close functions unstable and flash the desktop for a second or two when opening the lid. This bug has been documented in xscreensaver, light locker and xfce4 for SEVENTEEN YEARS and will NEVER BE FIXED
SD cards are also handled by some bullraisin in the DE, I'm thinking raisin like udisks but SD cards didnt work in TDE either, not to mention konqueerer is garbage and you literally cannot remove it from TDE without breaking it
>schizo rant about precompiled software
I dont want to compile software, no normal person wants to do more than double click the thing and have it download
>something something security something something precompiled kernel
I DONT CAAAAAAAAAAARE, safety is cool but its a safety net for retarded users. I have good web browsing practices and as long as I run a firewall, up to date browser and visit only known good websites I'm FINE
I will not use mint, I literally cant on the laptop I'm typing this on lest I use the fucking useless nouveau drivers that chug frames on my brothers GTX 980 system when running KDE Plasma, I will not run gentoo since I dont have the time and especially will to do that
I will not use a tiling WM since they look ugly and I cant be fucked learning them
I have tried every DE worth a damn and tried to mould it to my needs but none have held up, when my computers ran linux I loathed using them because I'd have to fuck around with xscreensaver blindly typing in my password since it doesnt fucking load properly and praying it didnt lock up my laptop, if it does open then im greeted to a hideous xfce desktop or a slow MATE desktop
I ran XFCE on my netbook, I had tweaked with it for two fucking weeks before going on holiday. That stupid raisin lockscreen made me need to hard reboot that thing THREE FUCKING TIMES during the flight, troubleshooting the fucking thing because it kept refusing to show anything more than a black screen when opening the lid before I decided to just never lock my netbook or let it sleep so I could actually watch House during the flight and stow it away when necessary
I gave up on linux a day or so after that and just reinstalled W7 after 2 years of bashing W7jeets and preaching linux to anyone who was considering dropping windows, its not ready for normal people and unfortunately I am now normal people and my time is worth something

>>10890
>xscreensaver
x is deprecated teen

>>10891
Wayland on a GMA 3150? Or a 9600M GS?
What screen locker utility is wayland exclusive? I tried every one I could on XFCE and all of them had the same bug as xscreensaver and/or XFCE4-wdwdiw

>>10890
>I am now normal people and my time is worth something

Troonix users CAN'T understand this. It would be like a car guy telling every car driver they need to learn how to do an engine swap, if they can't do that they are "toddlers" or whatever insult they like to use.
Sensible car guys will tell people to learn to check their fluids and maybe learn how to do a brake job or other basic tasks if they want to give it a go.
It would also be like a music maker calling anyone who listens to music who can't make music a "retard". You could come up with a million analogies. That music maker would get shunned for saying this, the troonix user gets shunned for the same reason.

Troonix users feel like they are doing something everyone else can't do or capable of learning, it gives them a superiority complex. In reality the majority of people COULD learn linux, but they simply aren't interested and never will be. Troonix goes against human nature, we are hands on, troonix is not hands on. I already said it before, the war was won 30 years ago with windows 95. Surprise surprise, the average person became interested in using computers when they became intuitive and hands on because people like computers to do the work for them, not the other way around.
And I can't stand how troonix users pretend to be oblivious to the amount of memory recall, learning curve, and tinkering required to use troonix. They will tell you "it just works" and follow up with "I only have to tinker with it for 20 minutes a week to make it work". Bro… First off, I don't want to tinker for 20 minutes a week just to use my computer, second off, it's 20 minutes for YOU.

I can work on cars, I don't call people stupid for not being interested in working on cars. I think it's a good idea to have the know how to do basic maintenance, at the very least please just check your fluids, change your oil, and don't ignore bad sounds. It's perfectly fine if that's where you draw the line, we're built different, we're all different.

Why are troonix users so fucking insufferable? Why do they feel so superior? Why is learning an obscure OS so important to them?

>>10901
AI-generated response

>>10901
>whine whine whine whine
people who use linux are computer hobbyists or tech workers

>>10901
> I already said it before, the war was won 30 years ago with windows 95.
windows 95 is not hosting this website lmfao

>>10905
Apples and oranges, 90% of teens on this site are using windows or macos

>>10871
Microsoft fucked up their terminal worse than any terminal that comes with any Linux distribution has ever done.
It's illustrative of their general software quality and it's why any developer who isn't a jeet or a massive boomer prefers Linux.
Literally the only reason to use Windows is because of hardware support. Anyone who actually advocates for Windows like you is just a pathetic cuck who supports being kept in a walled garden full of raisin because it's what you're used to.

>>10908
Hardware support is a big enough reason for me to write off linux for my simple use case

>>10890
my CPU is probably less powerful than yours, and you can leave your machine running over night, or set the priority for portage low to prevent it from stealing resources (causing lag) from other things, just leave it running in the background while you do your work
>i only need FAT32, exFAT, and NTFS
FAT is obsolete garbage, exFAT is even worse and just asking for fs corruption, and NTFS doesn't even have proper journaling, plus its dograisin slow, enjoy losing half of your data because you get 1 bad sector or a power outage
>ZFS
its actually very nice to have things like ZFS or btrfs when you need them, but i meant ext4, do wintoddlers seriously still defragment their drives?
>GNU isnt fast enough
you are doing something very wrong then, kick some useless junk out of your kernel and don't compress your initramfs, this should speed it up drastically
hibernation works fine, but i don't use it because i literally don't need it
>DEs
works with any wm i used so far, but yeah this is what happens when things are automated and made "user friendly" instead of letting the user take care of it manually
>wah wah i915
i think you want mesa-amber then, or if its GM45, mesa should just work (at least for gentoo)
they did drop i965 support in mesa though
>themes
try a window manager, but yes themes are poorly implemented thanks to (((toolkits))) (gtk/qt), if you asked me, everything should rely on .Xresources
>filezilla
why are you even using that raisin?
also try gentoo
>meme screensaver and locker
i dunno but i just use xss-lock and i3lock, i wrote a script to set my keyboard layout to us altgr-intl before locking, and i'm fine
>double click
its much faster to run eix something, and emerge something
>up to date browser
>firewall
outdated browsers without JS support should unironically be more secure than modern browsers
>known good websites
so you're one of those "durr hurr i'm not clicking that" retards eh?
>nouveau
thats because nouveau depends on proprietary firmware for any novideo gpus after kepler (post 780ti models), afaik on debian you need to manually enable support for that because freedumbs policy or something
without blobs on those cards, you wont have hardware acceleration or clocks above the base clock
>i dont have the time
it actually costs less time to maintain it because everything is automated, than it takes to cope with debian/arch crap
>they look ugly!
if you want fancy garbage, you will have to deal with raisin performance, but try chadWM or hyprland
oh and try using i3lock or slock for your lockscreen, if you want something pretty, betterlockscreen also exists
try using xss-lock, or try not using it if you're already using that, xss-lock triggers the lockscreen right after the lid switch is detected, BEFORE suspending, otherwise it would be triggered AFTER suspending (somethingsomething imaginary theoretical speculative security issues)
>>10891
you are deprecated
>>10896
waylock/swaylock, forgot the name
>>10901
every car driver has to at least know how to change tires, change oil, fill up gas, change fuses or lights, etc…
the equivalent to doing an engine swap would be to learn kernel development, nobody is asking you to do that.
and yes, you are a retard if you don't know how to play an instrument or compose music.
>wah wah you have to tinker with it 20 minutes per week
you don't HAVE to tinker, i literally don't have to update jackraisin, but fucking around with things is fun, thats what hackers do
if i don't like how tabs are managed in my web browser, i can change it or remove tab support entirely
people who use cars but don't know basic raisin about working on cars ARE stupid, stop whining, its true.
if you use something, learn how to use it and how it works.
>obscure OS
i'm a sysadmin so its actually my job to know every single thing i could possibly learn, and the entire internet depends on GNU, if anything winraisin is obscure, EVERYTHING ELSE is UNIX-like nowdays.
>>10904
i'm a tech worker and a hobbyist, my mom is neither but still uses GNU, and she doesn't need to know how to configure a kernel, she just reads up on how to use genkernel, runs 2 commands, and calls it a day
>>10907
99% of the world population is retarded.
>>10908
damn you were quicker than me, but you saved me 20 seconds of typing out text, so thanks
>hardware support
even doe wincuck has less hardware support than fucking android at this point, it only supports 1 architecture, and only the latest few machines running on that architecture. you need bullraisin like UEFI, TPM, and a FUCKING WEBCAM to make wincuck 11 work. GNU/Linux literally runs on fucking SPARC stations, and if you look into netBSD (another UNIX-like OS), it runs on the fucking sega dreamcast, as well as toasters
>>10909
the only hardware that won't just work is 10% of all the RGB gaymer garbage that requires proprietary guiraisin "control" software and a botnet razer cloud account to barely work, stop buying defective hardware.
99% of all the hardware just werks with GNU, and unless you're building your own custom kernel with all the junk stripped out, you don't even need to manually install drivers in most cases

>>10908
You troonix faggots haven't even come up with something better. Why do you whine and cry about windows this much and can't make windows 95 that isn't spyware or walled off?
Do it, make it and you'll win support. If the average user EVER has to touch the terminal you failed. Learn what "intuitive" means. It basically means no reliance on memory recall, you can learn as you go, figure stuff out just by fucking with it. Look at Windows, android, Macos, or an iphone, all are very intuitive. That is how you win people. Grasp this simple fucking fact, if you can't do that, you lose. Understand? You're losing right now and you have the audacity to gloat. It's pathetic. GUI won. You ain't got the cards.

>>10909
All I'm saying is that even if you think it's *technically* better because of hardware and software support that you enjoy, you should be cursing the companies who choose not to support better platforms that aren't terrible, and you should be cursing Windows for making an absolute trash system that gets worse every major release.

>>10838
>VIDEO_CARDS="intel"
what does that do, set it to only use the intel card?

>>10912
>You troonix faggots haven't even come up with something better
They have, but the instant winbabbies see anything 1 pixel different than they're used to they raisin their pants and get confused.
>Why do you whine and cry about windows
Laughing at your platform isn't whining and crying
>make windows 95 that isn't spyware or walled off
There are plenty of Windows clone distributions
>If the average user EVER has to touch the terminal you failed
Did you steal this argument from 2014? You don't have to anymore
>no reliance on memory recall, you can learn as you go, figure stuff out just by fucking with it
Seriously, what was the last distro you tried and when?

>>10912
there are literally a hundred terminal emulators, and every single one is better than anything microshaft could come up with.
personally i use st-flexipatch with fancy stuff like sixel support and a vi-like visual/search mode for copypasting/selecting text without a mouse, searching without a mouse, etc…
i can literally watch movies directly in my terminal emulator, while wintoddlers can't even render coloured text at 2fps…
>wah wah why dont you make
do it yourself, GNU/Linux is free software, learn C and do what you think is "ideal", then we will see how easy it is and how well it turns out
>wah wah le terminal!
vid rel
computers are tools for mathematicians, not facebook machines for white women
we flew to the fucking moon with a computer that had less power than a gameboy, nowdays fucking macbooks with 20000000 times more power can barely update a fucking facebook post
>no reliance on memory recall
so how do you figure out how to change some config on windoze, do you really dig around in 20 sub menus until you find some option thats named in a retarded confusing way, or do you remember all that raisin?
>look at <insert proprietary useless toys here>
yeah and all of those operating systems are useless toys, stripped down UNIX clones or NT garbage
>gui won
i want to see you doing some simple task, like setting up and using a printer on winraisin vs GNU, i can just do this
cat somefile.txt | paps | ps2pdf - | lp -

>>10916
read the gentoo handbook, and you throw this into your make.conf to tell portage that you have an intel gpu and want intel gpu support for the things you install, it will take care of that automatically
if you have multiple gpus you can add other raisin to that too, and won't have to manually install drivers
>>10918
wintoddlers when GNU/Linux with a windoze theme that looks 99% the same:
>WAH WAH WAH WAH I WONT USE THIS I'M USED TO WINDOZE!
wintoddlers when the next windoze version rolls out and they are forced to "upgrade" by microshaft:
>i'll stick to <insert previous version here>!
wintoddlers when their abandonware trash goes EOL:
>they fixed the newer version, i will never ever ever update again after this!
and so on…

>>10924
trvke

>>10924
TSMT

>>10910
I need FAT for my Camera, I need FAT/NTFS for usbs and it'll work perfectly fine since nothing requires EXT4
I tried all the drivers for the GMA, i965 already had its raisin installed and I remember fucking around with gallium3d or whatever and it made 0 difference
Filezilla works a damn sight better than gFTP, no I am not using CLI niggerware to do ftp
I will not try gentoo, I am sticking with Windows 7 until palemoon no longer updates for reasons
I am not writing scripts to get screen locking to work, fuck that raisin
I need a modern browser with JS support to run raisin like my bank
You literally cannot get Debian 12 to boot with pre Maxwell GPU's with functioning accel, debian has enabled that support by default and nouveau still has unacceptably raisin performance. You cannot force the 341 drivers to run, it WILL brick your install
Swaylock is neat
Its not just rgb guff that gets the axe on the move to linux, take my netbook for instance:
Its an acer aspire D255E, a netbook that literally shipped with linux and still doesnt work quite right with it. The shortcomings include:
>Lack of scrolling gestures
>Nonfunctional WIFI indicator across every distro
>Inability to undervolt the CPU which is BIG
>WIFI chip power states are broken, will run at full hog 24/7 and it'll run HOT
>Disabling the wifi chip somehow makes the system draw 0.5 more watts
>Hibernate is just broken regardless of swap space
>Inferior GPU drivers compared to the Chell 1.8b drivers available on windows
>Inability to overclock the CPU via FSB which is small but a 2ghz overclock on an atom allows 480p playback on youtube
>Slow sleep times
On TDE my netbook at 50% brightness drew 9W idle and 12.5 watts under full load, with Windows 7 my netbook draws 5.5/6W idle and 9 watts under full load thanks to actually functional WIFI power states and a nifty undervolt, this gives me an extra hour of battery life for free and cuts out a lot of the heat generated by the netbook
For my T9400 system, debian cannot properly run at all and debian is the best distro for normal people so I'm writing it of completely for that system

>>10920
Do I need to explain to you that before the GUI there were countless people far smarter than you that weren't interested in learning computers and only became interested after windows 95?

You're a midwit. You have broken logic. Troonix faggots are all fucking midwits who equate learning troonix with intelligence, everyone else is just stupid. It's so cringe and childish.

I am speaking DOWN to you, not the other way around. You're delusional and feel like you have bargaining power as you continue banging your head against the wall for 30 years, alone. I am speaking to the loser, you LOST, you lost 30 years ago. I am trying to do you a favor and get you to understand this simple fact.
You are the rock thrower who scoffs at the spear thrower.
You are the spear thrower who scoffs at the atlatl user.
You are the atlatl user who scoffs at the bowman.
You are the bowman who scoffs at crossbowman.
You are the crossbowman user who scoffs at firearm user.

The world moved on. There is no going back. We have the GUI, it's here to stay. Now make windows 95.

>>10924
>read the gentoo handbook, and you throw this into your make.conf to tell portage that you have an intel gpu and want intel gpu support for the things you install, it will take care of that automatically
this GAYMING laptop uses 2 gpus, the intel, and nvidia one
i just remembered i actually cant use linux on this machine because linux doesnt have the raisin necessary to disabled the nvidia card when i take the computer off power and have it use battery.
Such a shame.
you didnt see that last post

>>10930
do you not even encrypt your usb drives?
gallium3d is newer raisin, try mesa-amber
>male poon
try suckless surf
>cli niggerware
how about you use sftp, ideally sshfs
you can just mount a directory from one machine to another over ssh, and access that however you want (WITH working thumbnails and whatnot!)
mkdir serverdata
sshfs user@server:/data/somedir $HOME/serverdata
>wah wah i will not try gentoo
sour grapes
>wah wah i will not write a script
you have to write one if you use a 'minimalist' lockscreen that just does 1 thing, and want to do anything like changing your keyboard layout, i did that because i'm too lazy to actually implement layout switching into i3lock, and use a russian/korean/hebrew layout half of the time, rather than an english one
if you want plain ftp, try pcmanfm, its the least cancerous gui file manager i can think of
>muh bank
if your "bank" knew jackraisin about security they would let you use your own local free as in freedom crypto wallet instead of some insecure JS garbage
also, try suckless surf
>nouveau still has raisin performance
because the signed proprietary firmware still doesn't like any drivers that aren't signed by novideo
>brick your install
literally press e in grub and blacklist that module kek
>scrolling gesture
try switching between synaptics and libinput drivers, run xinput, xinput list-props on your touchpad (for my trackpoint it'd be xinput list-props TPPS/2\ IBM\ TrackPoint), and xinput set-prop TPPS/2\ IBM\ TrackPoint PROPNAME HERE
figure out what the gesture-scrolling one is called, or worst case you can just emulate it if your touchpad doesnt actually support that
>wifi indicator
thats defective hardware stuff, you can probably fix this manually by echoing something somewhere into /sys/, or maybe you forgot some weird ACPI fuckery needed for your rare unicorn hardware
>undervolt cpu
that'd be a hardware issue
>wifi chip power states
blame proprietary firmware/drivers for this, have you tried ath9k?
>somehow draws more power
what the fuck is wrong with your hardware?
>hibernation
i dont know whats wrong but it always worked for me when i used it
>chell 1.8b drivers
what the fuck IS that?
>480p playback on jewtube
mpv literally does 4K@24Hz h264 on my X200
>overclocking
ever heard of tlp or cpupower/scheduling?
>power management
try a window manager, and try setting your cpufreq governor to "powersave" (cpupower frequency-info, and cpupower frequency-set -g powersave)
>best distro for normal people
lol no
>>10931
facebook moms can eat raisin, they are the reason for computers being fucking garbage today
>i am speaking down to you
vid rel
>the gui is here to stay
except microshaft changes around "your" desktop with a few more faggot flags every month keeeek
>>10933
there are docs on that too, and some neat tool (forgot the name) that lets you run everything on the integrated gpu, and specific programs on the dedicated one (like games)
>cant disable novideo card
it can doe, i'd configure it to only use the intel gpu by default, and run games on the novideo one
>>10936
I SAW THAT

>>10962
Funny choice of video when I was about to say you are acting like zelensky trying to bargain with Trump with no cards.

>>10962
>i saw that
MEDS NOW
Wheres the support for my nividia card. I CANT USE LINUX without it

>>10970
what card again?
check the gentoo wiki.

>>10962
>try suckless surf
useless for what I need it to do
>if you want plain ftp, try pcmanfm
I already use pcmanfm for file browsing though I had no idea it could ftp
>sour grapes
I am not going for round 3 thrembillon with linux right now
>I will not write a script
I am not writing a script for the fucking screen lock, if a set of software requires me to write in the screen lock functionality myself then its a POS that doesnt deserve my time
>schizo bank thing
I am a normal person and need to spend my money on stupid insecure things like rent and groceries which crypto cannot do without headaches, surf will not work for the things I need it to do because I've already tried it
>try fucking around with touchpad drivers and xinput
yet another headache I dont wanna sign myself up to
>rare unicorn hardware
IT SHIPPED WITH LINUX, IT IS AS SUPPORTED AND DOCUMENTED AS HARDWARE FOR LINUX GOT IN 2010
>blame proprietary firmware/drivers for this, have you tried ath9k?
I did, didnt change a thing
>what the fuck is wrong with your hardware?
No clue, it running flawlessly in Win7 though
>what is chell?
Chell 1.8b is a community driver for GMA drivers, fixing up intels mess and providing far superior drivers than both linux and intels official windows ones, I managed to get 25fps in GMOD back in the day using these drivers
>mpv literally does 4K@24Hz h264 on my X200
GMA 3150 cannot decode H264, all non MPEG2 decoding is done by the CPU without a broadcom decoder chip that replaces the wifi chip
>ever heard of tlp or cpupower/scheduling?
Cpupower cannot touch the FSB or PLL though I used to run a 1333mhz underclock to improve battery life, windows uses a bit less power at 1.67ghz than linux did at 1.33ghz!
>lol no
lol yes, I've tried
>A billion Ubuntu distros
>Arch
>Debian
>OpenSolaris
>Slackware
>T2SDE
And Debian is just better in every normal persons use case, it fucks up the least compared to other distros and has the best package manager so it wins
Yes I will try OpenIndiana before gentoo, I will install T2SDE on my PS3 before I install gentoo on anything

>>10979
>useless
what do you need to do?
and yeah pcmanfm can do ftp
>wah wah wah
<reddit spacing
#!/bin/bash
setxkbmap "us(altgr-intl),ru(phonetic),il,kr(kr104)"
xkb-switch -s 'us(altgr-intl)'
i3lock –nofork -f -k -e -c 000000
<reddit spacing
>rent
imagine not owning your home
>surf will not work
have you ACTUALLY tried? try spoofing the UA as safari on linux, it might work if safari supports it and it doesnt require some non-standard fancy proprietary DRM extension bullraisin malware
if it doesnt work in surf, its garbage
>another headache
don't blame lunix for your hardware being raisin and you wanting weird non-standard input
>it shipped with lunix, its documented
how the hell is so much raisin broken then, literally the only thing that didn't work for me was my mute key, because i'm a schizo who refuses to use proprietary bioses, thus breaking the default smapi support, i have to let a service run ectool -w 0x03 -z 0x40 at boot to fix that
>wah wah cant decode h264
it can only decode mpeg2 with hardware acceleration, its software acceleration lmao
>broadcom decoder chip
thats a thing? do they slot into mini pcie slots or something? i have a free slot because i only use 2 wifi cards, so i could try it to offload ffmpeg encoding/decoding if that works without proprietary drivers
>FSB
cлава рoccия Z Z Z, cмeрть в украину
хoхoл cвинeй
>ubuntu
>arch
>debian
those are broken
>slackware
>solaris
slackware should at least work, and fucking solaris?
try gentoo.
>openindiana
if you want some user friendly meme distro, try openmandriva
its WIP but pretty good

> ▶Chud 2 hours ago №10912[Quote]>>10918>>10920
>
> >>10908
> You troonix faggots haven't even come up with something better. Why do you whine and cry about windows this much and can't make windows 95 that isn't spyware or walled off?
> Do it, make it and you'll win support. If the average user EVER has to touch the terminal you failed. Learn what "intuitive" means. It basically means no reliance on memory recall, you can learn as you go, figure stuff out just by fucking with it. Look at Windows, android, Macos, or an iphone, all are very intuitive. That is how you win people. Grasp this simple fucking fact, if you can't do that, you lose. Understand? You're losing right now and you have the audacity to gloat. It's pathetic. GUI won. You ain't got the cards.
>
> ▶Chud 2 hours ago №10914[Quote]
>
> >>10909
> All I'm saying is that even if you think it's *technically* better because of hardware and software support that you enjoy, you should be cursing the companies who choose not to support better platforms that aren't terrible, and you should be cursing Windows for making an absolute trash system that gets worse every major release.
>
> ▶Chud 2 hours ago №10916[Quote]>>10924
>
> File (hide): hwutthefuck.png 📥︎ (7.63 KB, 680x768) ImgOps
>
>
> >>10838
> >VIDEO_CARDS="intel"
> what does that do, set it to only use the intel card?
>
> ▶Chud 2 hours ago №10918[Quote]>>10924
>
> >>10912
> >You troonix faggots haven't even come up with something better
> They have, but the instant winbabbies see anything 1 pixel different than they're used to they raisin their pants and get confused.
> >Why do you whine and cry about windows
> Laughing at your platform isn't whining and crying
> >make windows 95 that isn't spyware or walled off
> There are plenty of Windows clone distributions
> >If the average user EVER has to touch the terminal you failed
> Did you steal this argument from 2014? You don't have to anymore
> >no reliance on memory recall, you can learn as you go, figure stuff out just by fucking with it
> Seriously, what was the last distro you tried and when?
>
> ▶Chud 2 hours ago №10920[Quote]>>10931
>
> File (hide): computers.webm 📥︎ (1.39 MB, 1280x720) [play once] [loop]
>
>
> >>10912
> there are literally a hundred terminal emulators, and every single one is better than anything microshaft could come up with.
> personally i use st-flexipatch with fancy stuff like sixel support and a vi-like visual/search mode for copypasting/selecting text without a mouse, searching without a mouse, etc…
> i can literally watch movies directly in my terminal emulator, while wintoddlers can't even render coloured text at 2fps…
> >wah wah why dont you make
> do it yourself, GNU/Linux is free software, learn C and do what you think is "ideal", then we will see how easy it is and how well it turns out
> >wah wah le terminal!
> vid rel
> computers are tools for mathematicians, not facebook machines for white women
> we flew to the fucking moon with a computer that had less power than a gameboy, nowdays fucking macbooks with 20000000 times more power can barely update a fucking facebook post
> >no reliance on memory recall
> so how do you figure out how to change some config on windoze, do you really dig around in 20 sub menus until you find some option thats named in a retarded confusing way, or do you remember all that raisin?
> >look at <insert proprietary useless toys here>
> yeah and all of those operating systems are useless toys, stripped down UNIX clones or NT garbage
> >gui won
> i want to see you doing some simple task, like setting up and using a printer on winraisin vs GNU, i can just do this
> cat somefile.txt | paps | ps2pdf - | lp -
>
> ▶Chud 2 hours ago №10924[Quote]>>10925>>10927>>10936
>
> File (hide): the wincuck cycle soyjak n….jpg 📥︎ (60.81 KB, 800x800) ImgOps
>
>
> >>10916
> read the gentoo handbook, and you throw this into your make.conf to tell portage that you have an intel gpu and want intel gpu support for the things you install, it will take care of that automatically
> if you have multiple gpus you can add other raisin to that too, and won't have to manually install drivers
> >>10918
> wintoddlers when GNU/Linux with a windoze theme that looks 99% the same:
> >WAH WAH WAH WAH I WONT USE THIS I'M USED TO WINDOZE!
> wintoddlers when the next windoze version rolls out and they are forced to "upgrade" by microshaft:
> >i'll stick to <insert previous version here>!
> wintoddlers when their abandonware trash goes EOL:
> >they fixed the newer version, i will never ever ever update again after this!
> and so on…
>
> ▶Chud 2 hours ago №10925[Quote]
>
> >>10924
> trvke
>
> ▶Chud 1 hour ago №10927[Quote]
>
> >>10924
> TSMT
>
> ▶Chud 1 hour ago №10930[Quote]>>10962
>
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>
>
> >>10910
> I need FAT for my Camera, I need FAT/NTFS for usbs and it'll work perfectly fine since nothing requires EXT4
> I tried all the drivers for the GMA, i965 already had its raisin installed and I remember fucking around with gallium3d or whatever and it made 0 difference
> Filezilla works a damn sight better than gFTP, no I am not using CLI niggerware to do ftp
> I will not try gentoo, I am sticking with Windows 7 until palemoon no longer updates for reasons
> I am not writing scripts to get screen locking to work, fuck that raisin
> I need a modern browser with JS support to run raisin like my bank
> You literally cannot get Debian 12 to boot with pre Maxwell GPU's with functioning accel, debian has enabled that support by default and nouveau still has unacceptably raisin performance. You cannot force the 341 drivers to run, it WILL brick your install
> Swaylock is neat
> Its not just rgb guff that gets the axe on the move to linux, take my netbook for instance:
> Its an acer aspire D255E, a netbook that literally shipped with linux and still doesnt work quite right with it. The shortcomings include:
> >Lack of scrolling gestures
> >Nonfunctional WIFI indicator across every distro
> >Inability to undervolt the CPU which is BIG
> >WIFI chip power states are broken, will run at full hog 24/7 and it'll run HOT
> >Disabling the wifi chip somehow makes the system draw 0.5 more watts
> >Hibernate is just broken regardless of swap space
> >Inferior GPU drivers compared to the Chell 1.8b drivers available on windows
> >Inability to overclock the CPU via FSB which is small but a 2ghz overclock on an atom allows 480p playback on youtube
> >Slow sleep times
> On TDE my netbook at 50% brightness drew 9W idle and 12.5 watts under full load, with Windows 7 my netbook draws 5.5/6W idle and 9 watts under full load thanks to actually functional WIFI power states and a nifty undervolt, this gives me an extra hour of battery life for free and cuts out a lot of the heat generated by the netbook
> For my T9400 system, debian cannot properly run at all and debian is the best distro for normal people so I'm writing it of completely for that system
>
> ▶Chud 1 hour ago №10931[Quote]>>10962
>
> >>10920
> Do I need to explain to you that before the GUI there were countless people far smarter than you that weren't interested in learning computers and only became interested after windows 95?
>
> You're a midwit. You have broken logic. Troonix faggots are all fucking midwits who equate learning troonix with intelligence, everyone else is just stupid. It's so cringe and childish.
>
> I am speaking DOWN to you, not the other way around. You're delusional and feel like you have bargaining power as you continue banging your head against the wall for 30 years, alone. I am speaking to the loser, you LOST, you lost 30 years ago. I am trying to do you a favor and get you to understand this simple fact.
> You are the rock thrower who scoffs at the spear thrower.
> You are the spear thrower who scoffs at the atlatl user.
> You are the atlatl user who scoffs at the bowman.
> You are the bowman who scoffs at crossbowman.
> You are the crossbowman user who scoffs at firearm user.
>
> The world moved on. There is no going back. We have the GUI, it's here to stay. Now make windows 95.
>
> ▶Chud 1 hour ago №10936[Quote]>>10962
>
> >>10924
> >read the gentoo handbook, and you throw this into your make.conf to tell portage that you have an intel gpu and want intel gpu support for the things you install, it will take care of that automatically
> this GAYMING laptop uses 2 gpus, the intel, and nvidia one
> i just remembered i actually cant use linux on this machine because linux doesnt have the raisin necessary to disabled the nvidia card when i take the computer off power and have it use battery.
> Such a shame.
> you didnt see that last post
>
> ▶Chud 1 hour ago №10962[Quote]>>10963>>10970>>10979
>
> File (hide): Resumo_de_hoje_do_conflito….mp4 📥︎ (1.52 MB, 640x360) ImgOps [play once] [loop]
>
>
> >>10930
> do you not even encrypt your usb drives?
> gallium3d is newer raisin, try mesa-amber
> >male poon
> try suckless surf
> >cli niggerware
> how about you use sftp, ideally sshfs
> you can just mount a directory from one machine to another over ssh, and access that however you want (WITH working thumbnails and whatnot!)
> mkdir serverdata
> sshfs user@server:/data/somedir $HOME/serverdata
> >wah wah i will not try gentoo
> sour grapes
> >wah wah i will not write a script
> you have to write one if you use a 'minimalist' lockscreen that just does 1 thing, and want to do anything like changing your keyboard layout, i did that because i'm too lazy to actually implement layout switching into i3lock, and use a russian/korean/hebrew layout half of the time, rather than an english one
> if you want plain ftp, try pcmanfm, its the least cancerous gui file manager i can think of
> >muh bank
> if your "bank" knew jackraisin about security they would let you use your own local free as in freedom crypto wallet instead of some insecure JS garbage
> also, try suckless surf
> >nouveau still has raisin performance
> because the signed proprietary firmware still doesn't like any drivers that aren't signed by novideo
> >brick your install
> literally press e in grub and blacklist that module kek
> >scrolling gesture
> try switching between synaptics and libinput drivers, run xinput, xinput list-props on your touchpad (for my trackpoint it'd be xinput list-props TPPS/2\ IBM\ TrackPoint), and xinput set-prop TPPS/2\ IBM\ TrackPoint PROPNAME HERE
> figure out what the gesture-scrolling one is called, or worst case you can just emulate it if your touchpad doesnt actually support that
> >wifi indicator
> thats defective hardware stuff, you can probably fix this manually by echoing something somewhere into /sys/, or maybe you forgot some weird ACPI fuckery needed for your rare unicorn hardware
> >undervolt cpu
> that'd be a hardware issue
> >wifi chip power states
> blame proprietary firmware/drivers for this, have you tried ath9k?
> >somehow draws more power
> what the fuck is wrong with your hardware?
> >hibernation
> i dont know whats wrong but it always worked for me when i used it
> >chell 1.8b drivers
> what the fuck IS that?
> >480p playback on jewtube
> mpv literally does 4K@24Hz h264 on my X200
> >overclocking
> ever heard of tlp or cpupower/scheduling?
> >power management
> try a window manager, and try setting your cpufreq governor to "powersave" (cpupower frequency-info, and cpupower frequency-set -g powersave)
> >best distro for normal people
> lol no
> >>10931
> facebook moms can eat raisin, they are the reason for computers being fucking garbage today
> >i am speaking down to you
> vid rel
> >the gui is here to stay
> except microshaft changes around "your" desktop with a few more faggot flags every month keeeek
> >>10933
> there are docs on that too, and some neat tool (forgot the name) that lets you run everything on the integrated gpu, and specific programs on the dedicated one (like games)
> >cant disable novideo card
> it can doe, i'd configure it to only use the intel gpu by default, and run games on the novideo one
> >>10936
> I SAW THAT
>
> ▶Chud 60 minutes ago №10963[Quote]
>
> >>10962
> Funny choice of video when I was about to say you are acting like zelensky trying to bargain with Trump with no cards.
>
> ▶Chud 50 minutes ago №10970[Quote]>>10973
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> >>10962
> >i saw that
> MEDS NOW
> Wheres the support for my nividia card. I CANT USE LINUX without it
>
> ▶Chud 46 minutes ago №10973[Quote]
>
> >>10970
> what card again?
> check the gentoo wiki.
>
> ▶Chud 38 minutes ago №10979[Quote]>>10985
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> >>10962
> >try suckless surf
> useless for what I need it to do
> >if you want plain ftp, try pcmanfm
> I already use pcmanfm for file browsing though I had no idea it could ftp
> >sour grapes
> I am not going for round 3 thrembillon with linux right now
> >I will not write a script
> I am not writing a script for the fucking screen lock, if a set of software requires me to write in the screen lock functionality myself then its a POS that doesnt deserve my time
> >schizo bank thing
> I am a normal person and need to spend my money on stupid insecure things like rent and groceries which crypto cannot do without headaches, surf will not work for the things I need it to do because I've already tried it
> >try fucking around with touchpad drivers and xinput
> yet another headache I dont wanna sign myself up to
> >rare unicorn hardware
> IT SHIPPED WITH LINUX, IT IS AS SUPPORTED AND DOCUMENTED AS HARDWARE FOR LINUX GOT IN 2010
> >blame proprietary firmware/drivers for this, have you tried ath9k?
> I did, didnt change a thing
> >what the fuck is wrong with your hardware?
> No clue, it running flawlessly in Win7 though
> >what is chell?
> Chell 1.8b is a community driver for GMA drivers, fixing up intels mess and providing far superior drivers than both linux and intels official windows ones, I managed to get 25fps in GMOD back in the day using these drivers
> >mpv literally does 4K@24Hz h264 on my X200
> GMA 3150 cannot decode H264, all non MPEG2 decoding is done by the CPU without a broadcom decoder chip that replaces the wifi chip
> >ever heard of tlp or cpupower/scheduling?
> Cpupower cannot touch the FSB or PLL though I used to run a 1333mhz underclock to improve battery life, windows uses a bit less power at 1.67ghz than linux did at 1.33ghz!
> >lol no
> lol yes, I've tried
> >A billion Ubuntu distros
> >Arch
> >Debian
> >OpenSolaris
> >Slackware
> >T2SDE
> And Debian is just better in every normal persons use case, it fucks up the least compared to other distros and has the best package manager so it wins
> Yes I will try OpenIndiana before gentoo, I will install T2SDE on my PS3 before I install gentoo on anything
>
> ▶Chud 19 minutes ago №10985[Quote]
>
> >>10979
> >useless
> what do you need to do?
> and yeah pcmanfm can do ftp
> >wah wah wah
> <reddit spacing
> #!/bin/bash
> setxkbmap "us(altgr-intl),ru(phonetic),il,kr(kr104)"
> xkb-switch -s 'us(altgr-intl)'
> i3lock –nofork -f -k -e -c 000000
> <reddit spacing
> >rent
> imagine not owning your home
> >surf will not work
> have you ACTUALLY tried? try spoofing the UA as safari on linux, it might work if safari supports it and it doesnt require some non-standard fancy proprietary DRM extension bullraisin malware
> if it doesnt work in surf, its garbage
> >another headache
> don't blame lunix for your hardware being raisin and you wanting weird non-standard input
> >it shipped with lunix, its documented
> how the hell is so much raisin broken then, literally the only thing that didn't work for me was my mute key, because i'm a schizo who refuses to use proprietary bioses, thus breaking the default smapi support, i have to let a service run ectool -w 0x03 -z 0x40 at boot to fix that
> >wah wah cant decode h264
> it can only decode mpeg2 with hardware acceleration, its software acceleration lmao
> >broadcom decoder chip
> thats a thing? do they slot into mini pcie slots or something? i have a free slot because i only use 2 wifi cards, so i could try it to offload ffmpeg encoding/decoding if that works without proprietary drivers
> >FSB
> cлава рoccия Z Z Z, cмeрть в украину
> хoхoл cвинeй
> >ubuntu
> >arch
> >debian
> those are broken
> >slackware
> >solaris
> slackware should at least work, and fucking solaris?
> try gentoo.
> >openindiana
> if you want some user friendly meme distro, try openmandriva
> its WIP but pretty good

No fucking way you niggers type this much STFU

>>10985
>imagine not owning your home
Aus is in the middle of a housing crisis and recession, unfortunately I wasnt born in 1972 and spawned into a pretty broke familiy so home ownership was out of the window from day 1, home ownership in general was a giant meme by the time I entered highschool :)
>how the hell is so much raisin broken then
Dont ask me, ask the kernel maintainers. Guessing some compatibility has been 'nished in recent years
>it can only decode mpeg2 with hardware acceleration
I know
>thats a thing? do they slot into mini pcie slots or something?
Yes and no, you can get ones that fit in mini pcie and also the standard those little wifi chips use. My netbook only has one of those slots and I am not tethering it to ethernet when DVD rips are more than acceptable and it can handle 720p30 locally on the CPU anyways
>slackware should at least work, and fucking solaris?
try gentoo.
I did like slackware, was rock solid but I often clashed with way of installing programs
I still run slackware in my ratchet bootleg NAS
>headless 800mhz laptop with a 1tb hdd running 24/7 that I ftp into whenever
And debian had wifi issues that would permanently break networking on that thing until you reinstalled debian, slackware has no such issues
Still, that thing runs windowmaker and wouldnt work right on laptops
When palemoon drops 7 then I'll relearn slackware or learn gentoo, I never wanna use debian and raisin again
I'll loathe the day I have to ditch 7 though, I'm at a point in my life where I never want to think about my computer again, I dont want to configure anything again, I never want to nano into a config file again, I never want to have winetricks fuck my package manager again because I didnt install the 32 bit binaries on my 64 bit laptop
I'll have to deal with it one day though, I'll be pissed

>>10993
you could always move to russia, they have a thing called a "shared values visa", you just give them a passport, a negative HIV test, an empty criminal record, and tell them that your opinions and traditional values align with theirs (faggots are bad, nazis are bad, the west is evil, families in a traditional marriage with 10 kids are good, etc), they will give you a visa and once you're in russia, a permanent residency permit.
they also have a land program where they will give you a few acres of land in a random location somewhere on the countryside (because everyone is a fucking city slicker) if you promise to actually homestead it for (i think 2 or 4) years, if you do, you can keep it. if not, you have to pay them for it. wood and other building materials are dirt cheap, food is dirt cheap, land is basically free, and even rent is very cheap compared to the west
>debian issues
yeah…. so much to "debian is the best!", now you know why i hate debian
>i never want to edit config files
theres no way around it, get comfortable with emacs, mg, or vi(m)
>winetricks fucking my package manager because of 32 bit libraries
why are you even bothering with that garbage, and HOW would it fuck your package manager? its literally supposed to never touch your system by itself
better get used to gentoo now so you don't have trouble later
>>10994
gem

>>10997
>you could always move to russia
Good to know, when I'm a bit older and the job everything market is even more rooted with indians and corrupt everythings I may very well fuck off from aus
>theres no way around it, get comfortable with emacs, mg, or vi(m)
Nano works fine enough, the worst part of configuring is linux's slow boot times, the process in the case of getting cpupower to run as an elevated systemd task is
>configure thing
>reboot
>wait 3 minutes to boot into desktop
>thing didnt work
>change thing
>reboot
>repeat ad infinitum until you give up and just make a cronjob
>spent an hour doing a task that throttlestop can do in 20 seconds award
<reddit spacing
>and HOW would it fuck your package manager?
It just did, I had installed wine and winetricks, it didnt work at all so I uninstalled the wine package and then it had sent apt into some form of gridlock where it wanted to delete fuckin everything and had 30 missing dependencies that had to be met before I could uninstall winetricks, all of these deps were for wine but I couldnt reinstall wine since apt and dpkg were broken
Paraphrasing and going off of memory but that took a day to fix
>better get used to gentoo now so you don't have trouble later
Thats why I ran debian/slackware in the first place in 2023, glad to see I bet on the completely wrong horses

>>11004
you literally just throw a few lines into your sudoers file
%wheel ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/cpupower frequency-set -g conservative
repeat for powersave, ondemand, userspace, performance, and schedutil (or whatever governors you may have)
>3 minutes
this is why i compile my own kernel, and seriously, try NOT compressing your initramfs, it really helps
my thinkpad takes about 20 seconds to boot into X11 and load everything, WITH full disk encryption, and including all the bios/grub autism
(+5s for entering a password at boot)
>apt
this is why i dont use debian, its so easy to accidentally nuke dependencies recursively and break raisin

>>10901
I'm a software engineer, using other OSes is a waste of my time. It's the best tool for my job, so I already have Linux set up how I like and know how to use it.
If someone wants to LARP as a hacker and use the terminal that's their problem, not a problem with Linux.
Should have used Ubuntu, or just used Windows if they want to play games and don't care about personal privacy. Just don't start deepthroating Bill Gate's cock and have a melty when someone tells you your OS could be way faster and less full of bugs and UI issues.

>>11018
Dont most software engineers use windows or mac and utilize linux for servers?
Linux has more ui issues from what ive heard

>>11025
the "UI issues" are called toolkits (qt/gtk), if you just stick to openGL and X11 libs (and maybe SDL), you're good.
directx is a giant pile of garbage, everything simple should be xrender/xcb, and everything complicated should be openGL.
the "software engineers" you are thinking about are C# braindamage retards, and half of them are JS code monkeys who use macbooks. anyone who wants to get work done will have to deal with GNU or BSD (probably GNU because *BSD sucks on desktops)

>>11029
Ill admit js is for codemonkeys but whats with c#. I was told directx and raisin wasnt that bad

>>11035
oh its absolute dograisin if you ever tried to work with it, i personally hate OOP but even if i was the biggest OOP fan like my husband, i would still hate C# (he does)
it has literally been confirmed to caused braindamage

>>11038
Whats with you bringing your husband into this?
Also wdym stick to x11 and open gl libs. How would one do that

>>11040
because i hate OOP and he loves OOP, yet we BOTH hate C#
>how
take a look at any oldschool X11 program, you just write your things in C and use stuff like Xlib, Xutil, Xos, Xatom, Xrandr, Xrender, and raw opengl
go find an openGL demo written in C/C++

>>11044
What if i dont know how to write that raisin. Is it just over

>With the principles of great power, many choices, and extreme openness highlighted, diligence, thought, and intentionality should be employed while using Gentoo.
Lol i lack this

>>11038
BASED. who is that cracka?

>>11078
Ian McKellen