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Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™
>Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook)

Why ThinkPad?
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap
>Excellent keyboards, tactile feel and quiet
>Great durability: magnesium roll cage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop
>Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain
>Excellent Linux & *BSD support

ThinkWiki - General info about ThinkPads/specs
https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki

Model generations:
>Classic IBM: T40, T41, T42
>IBM/Lenovo Transition: T43, T60, T61 (T42 - T43: significant difference in specs)
>"Classic" Lenovo: T400, T410, T420 (T61 - T400: 4:3 to 16:10)
>Transition to old modern: T430, T440, T450 (T420 - T430: membrane to chiclet)
>Old modern: T460, T470, T480 (T450 - T460: significantly less thick)
>New modern: T490, T14g1, T14g2 (T480 - T490: design change)
>New new modern: T14g3, T14g4, … (T14g2 - T14g3: second design change)

BIOS replacement:
https://coreboot.org/downloads.html
https://libreboot.org/docs/install/
https://canoeboot.org/docs/install/

Additional resources:
https://dankpads.com/tpg/
https://biosimage.booru.org
https://1vyra.in

Patches:
https://github.com/digmorepaka/thinkpad-firmware-patches
https://github.com/hamishcoleman/thinkpad-ec

Chat:
##ibmthinkpad on libera
#/tpg/ on rizon

 7417[Quote]

my thinkpad almost killed itself because of dusty fans

 7419[Quote]

>>7417
I just keep the fans on high all the time. Dust will not defeat me.

 7425[Quote]

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Thoughts on HP EliteBooks?

 7641[Quote]

Should I upgrade my t420 screen?

 7656[Quote]

>>7641
yes, the tn panels are crap

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>>7656
Yeah it's pretty bad. I kinda wanna make this my main driver cause I'll be traveling so I'll probably do it.
>>7675
I spent over $80 for the the laptop, new ram and battery. With the new screen and converter its gonna be $100+

 7766[Quote]

im a cheap mf, and i need a thinkpad for programming and 1080p jewtube videos, some minecraft autism survival and i think im gonna run everything on linux. i have like 50$ what thinkpad can i get for that money?

 7770[Quote]

>>7766
$50 is a bit of a stretch, look into Dell Latitudes (or maybe EliteBooks) as well since they can sometimes provide better value for money (I'm typing this on one right now). Otherwise just use your current computer for now and save up a little more.

 9427[Quote]

i have never used linux and i wanna get a laptop to test stuff out and fuck around with. whats a cheap laptop for something like this?

 9440[Quote]

>>7409 (OP)
bump

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>>7766
>>7766
>i have like 50$ what thinkpad can i get for that money?

 9443[Quote]

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>>9441
Kino if it wasn't running Arch Troonix.

 9444[Quote]

>>9427
do you want to go balls deep like arch or Gentoo or just fuck with Linux in general?
If just fuck around then don't get a laptop.
Either double boot or even easier just try it out without installing
https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/try-ubuntu-before-you-install#1-getting-started
https://tails.net/install/
If you want to go balls deep all in then check out this list to select something compatible and cheap
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Category:Laptops
I wouldn't go too cheap because if the display is raisin like on older ThinkPads compared to your modern display then it won't make any fun.

 9445[Quote]

>>9443
>Kino if it wasn't running Arch Troonix
I bought one for 50€ some time ago and still have it around. Great quality laptop but the display is so dark you can't seriously use it nowadays except if you connect it to a normal display

 9481[Quote]

>>9444
thank you, just wanted to fuck around

im pretty tech illiterate and do not plan to go balls deep but still in the future i want to switch from windows

 9804[Quote]

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Ordered a x61 and plan on restoring it, what am I in for?

Also sine its 64bit, could I install WinXP 64 edition without having conflicts with the drivers?

 9846[Quote]

If I have a lot of money to throw away should I buy a nupad or a soywork?

 9849[Quote]

>>9846
Framework o algo, it doesn't really make sense to buy a ThinkPad brand new since they lose value quickly.

 10216[Quote]

>>9849
Honestly them being a US based company makes me kinda nervous with the current political climate but I'm probably retarded.

 10225[Quote]

>>9427
any thinkpad compatible with libreboot, or some dell latitudes are compatible too. I'd get an X200 or T400 if you want total freedom, or a T430/X230 if you want more performance and 99% freedom (because of the intel ME you can't fully remove on those newer models, you can only 'disable' it and strip it down to a ~70K stub)
the T430/X230 (aka XX30 models) have worse build quality, a raisinty keyboard, and not a much better screen than the older models, but the good thing is that you can replace the CPU, RAM, storage (msata ssd, sata ssd, ultrabay for a sata ssd/hdd or a cd/dvd drive, expresscard slot for an nvme adapter, and so on), keyboard, display, etc…
you can replace the screen with a newer T440p IPS panel, they look a lot better; and for the keyboard, get an X220/T420 keyboard, file down some metal tabs, cut off some plastic from the frame, isolate some contacts with kapton tape, flash a modified EC firmware, and you can use a proper non-chiclet-garbage keyboard in XX30 models as well. I have a bunch of X200's, T400's, T60's, an X200s and X200t, and a T430. All of them are fully upgraded, and each one will cost you about 200-300$ if you want good storage (4-8TiB of ssds and hdds)

 10231[Quote]

>>9849
it doesnt make sense to buy any computer hardware brand new really, especially with business machines. thinkpads and dell latitudes are not designed to be single-use ewaste like macbooks, so it doesn't really make any difference if you buy a used or brand new one, except you pay 100-150$ for a used one and will clean it, upgrade it, refurbish it, etc.. anyway, even if it was brand new. you don't pay 4000$ for a new machine, you don't have to deal with bad DOA units, you usually have better software support with older models (and more freedom, because modern hardware is the antichrist), you get far better build quality, and you don't pay the microsoft tax because you're installing your own operating system anyway, that means -200$.

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