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Fedora
Packages up to date while just works. Easy to swap spins for new desktops. Upgrading to new versions solid.
I've been at it for 8 years straight.
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>>10601 (OP)Since you're going to end up here anyways, you might as well skip ahead to Windows 11. Use WSL2 for your Linux needs, thank me later.
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>>10601 (OP)what do you value on a distro?
I use linux mint because it's the closest thing to windows xp that works
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Install gentoo
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>>10603I'm actually using Fedora right now.
Though I did mess up and forget to find a timeshift or timeshift like function for it that Linux Mint comes bundled with. So I might have to restart my installation.
>>10613stability and just working.
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>>>10603
>I'm actually using Fedora right now.
>Though I did mess up and forget to find a timeshift or timeshift like function for it that Linux Mint comes bundled with. So I might have to restart my installation.
>>>10613
>stability and just working.
If you use fedora, you are going to suffer a lot of updates EVERY-SINGLE-DAY; I know it because I used to have fedora as my main operating system.
Later, I came to Debian. It just works, but you are not going to receive the last versions of the programs.
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I've been using endeavour os for a long time and I never switched.
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>>10601 (OP)i've used my gentoo install for over 9 years now and never had to reinstall it, it just werks and lets me change things around when i want to
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>>10617>stability and just working.there aren't many distros that have that. either linux mint or ubuntu
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>>10653ubuntu has raisin ton of spyware though
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>>10655that's why I use mint
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>>10658>>10655>>10653>>10617anything debian based will be painful to deal with, fedora is redhats playground and designed to not allow user modification, mint is kind of okay if you aren't actually doing anything other than web browsing, don't want to compile software, don't want to customize things, and don't want to take care of anything yourself
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I use Devuan MATE. The simple and easy rock solid base Debian offers with none of the systemd garbage. If you want more up-to-date packages, you can always use Flatpak. As much as it sucks, I haven't found anything better.
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>>10663you can customize your linux mint. it's still linux wtf?
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>>10690yeah but good luck actually doing anything like compiling your own kernel, quickly packaging something that isn't in the repos in your own repo, installing your own bootloader, or anything similar.
if you want sane defaults, mint is fine
if you want sane defaults but also customization, gentoo is better
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>>10692dont you have to compile everythimg yourself in gentoo
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>>10690You must realize that the autist you're replying to has a different definition for "customize". When he says "customize", he means "raisin that you can dick around with that 99% of people don't know about and won't benefit from".
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>>10617You should try Fedora Silverblue/Kinoite, they're the most Just Works distros I've ever tried.
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>>10601 (OP)I have been running Linux on and off for many years. Debian Fedora and Arch are the best distros. But I have settled on Debian.
>FedoraGood industry support, release cadence and package manager features e.g. transactions and verification. But too many hardware support issues, even on hardware that does not require proprietary drivers to function optimally. And good luck getting any love out of Red Hat Bugzilla. Also, some packages update far too often, e.g. the kernel.
>ArchFantastic community support, documentation and package freshness. Well suited to a non-critical personal desktop. But the system does not support partial upgrades, so you pay for that freshness with constant reboots. Packaging policies are less strict, so it is less trustworthy. And no Mandatory Access Control means it is less secure.
>DebianA true community distro. Democratic and principled. Distro policies are well documented and strict. Conservative engineering choices. Battle tested. Widely supported. Great performance and compatibility. Big repos. A nice set of tools. The only critiques I can give it is no releases with hardware-enablement kernel, no user-facing rolling release, not enough bugfix backports, and some minor quirks with package management. But overall it is the most reliable system. I am using Trixie with GNOME right now at work and at home and it's pretty great. There's just something cool about this distro.
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install gentoo
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>>10601 (OP)install gentoo
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>>10615Actually try calculate-linux instead. It's for gentoo as manjaro is for arch. Best first and last distro
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>>10763Literal mobilefag immutable distri
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>>10601 (OP)>What Linux Distro did you lads settle onarch for desktop, looking into NixOS (from Debian) for home server
>what aspects about said distro is why you settled on it?arch is very low maintenance, easy to install packages, no snap/flakpak/ppa cancer, doesnt break often because it ships vanilla packages, excellent documentation. its just convenient and Im really lazy
>And how long have you been using said distro?12 years
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>>10635Set update frequency to weekly or monthly also you are not forced to press that update button
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>>10699>Great performance>Big repos.lol, lmao even
>>10794mangina is dograisin though
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>>10653Ubuntu is most unstable crap there is, things break randomly
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Arch unironically fixed my distroHobbing, it's not for everyone one, i admit, but you should it give it a try at least
Also don't forget to install gentoo
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This website can help you install gentoo n shieeet
https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Main_Page â„–10884[Quote]
>>10601 (OP)>what distroArch
>why settleup to date software, nearly everything exists in the AUR, headers included with library packages, no forced snapd or flatpak faggotry
>how long12 years
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>>10795>he thinks using an immutable distro means you can't install softwarelol
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>>10601 (OP)Manjaro for games.
Ubuntu for ffmpeg compilation.
Done.
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>>10693no, it has binaries too, but by default everything is (automatically) compiled from source, optimized just how you want it (or by default, specifically for your hardware)
if you want to actually customize raisin (like compiling mpv without depending on gayland, entirely disabling gayland support and thus saving 4GiB of space), you can do that by setting -wayland as USE flag
>>1069499% of all people WILL benefit from USE flags in most cases, and from hardware specific optimizations, but most people don't know about them
>>10884HALF of all the raisin in the AUR fails to compile randomly, its a toy and doesn't even have USE flags or custom global CFLAGS
but yeah anything that actually depends on 3rd party package managers is straight up defective (looking at you, ubuntu)
>>10889do you really need another distro to compile ffmpeg… how broken is manjaro?
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>>10601 (OP)>What Linux Distro did you lads settle on mac with nix-darwin
>what aspects about said distro is why you settled on iti also have a nixos server. programmatically configuring your devices is nice and ansible is raisin
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>>10601 (OP)OpenBSD and you’ll never use anything ever again.
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>>10898DO NOT USE XFCE ON LAPTOPS
(You) WILL REGRET IT
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>>10952Any DE that's not KDE, Gnome or Cinnamon is rnca anyways
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>I just can't settle on a Linux Distro.
>What Linux Distro did you lads settle on and what aspects about said distro is why you settled on it?
>And how long have you been using said distro?
Fedora since version 37, now on 42.
- Out of the box SELinux
- It offers a nice middle ground between the headaches of rolling releases and the moldy stable releases from the likes of Debian
- Most if not all normie programs that support linux have .rpm packages
- It just works
- Its not Debian
Real question is what are you expecting from a distro? With a few noteable exceptions, they're all the same raisin. Your favorite DE looks the same on any distro you run it on.
What matters are the maintainers of the distro. Which is why Manjaro is such a pile of crap and should be avoided at all costs.
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I use ubuntu on my laptop because it just werks
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>>10972enjoy getting datamined or something
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>>10974You can turn that off
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With bedrock you can use all the distros at once. Albeit I stopped using it because I realised I only missed some debian libraries for dependencies but I love void otherwise
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>>10991To elaborate:
I've tried Arch, Void, Artix, Bedrock for a significant amount of time.
I've settled on Void and I've been using it since September of the last year.
I like it for its package manager primarely. I've never had issues with updatws and I never had to downgrade its packages. It's arch but stable.
It uses runit, solid init system but meh I don't care about the init system on my newer devices since the difference in boot time is insignificant. On older devices it can vary up to several seconds though.
Also it has musl version if you're into that.
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>>10617On fedora you can have btrfs snapshots, it's much better than timeshift slop.
>>10635Updoots are good.
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I was gonna recommend manjaro, but then i remembered it's not that old perfect manjaro anymore, i seriously cannot tell what is going on inside the developers heads
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>I was gonna recommend manjaro, but then i remembered it's not that old perfect manjaro anymore, i seriously cannot tell what is going on inside the developers heads
When was the golden age of Manjaro? I tried running it for a month like 5 years ago and it would take a raisin on itself on damn near every update.
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>>>10617
>You should try Fedora Silverblue/Kinoite, they're the most Just Works distros I've ever tried.
same same, been on it since last year on my T480, and the best part, you can always hop between the different builds with rebase, while being always safe from any problems on the installation with rollbacks, it really just works for me
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>>10803>Big reposDebian has the biggest. Don't tell me you're counting nixpkgs or AUR which are source-based only, where anyone can upload anything, and where "packages" are left to rot.
>Great performanceWhat is faster and still functional as a general purpose OS with wide industry support? Fedora is slower. Arch is comparable, but it also does less.
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>>>10803
>Debian has the biggest.
No, gentoo has
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>>10601 (OP)just find something else to do at home o algo
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arch or debian
unless you're a redditor, in that case fedora
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>>11345I was about to ask where should I move over from kubuntu since I've been there since I moved to linux, if fedora based or something arch based. I guess I'll just install endeavouros or chachyos.
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>>10952elaborate, ive used it on a laptop and it seems fine
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>>10601 (OP)I have 0 time for distrohopping. Just using Kubuntu for roughly 2 years on all PCs/ Laptops.
Setting up my primary PC with all the necessary configurations, applications,… - it took me around 70h
I am not looking forward to upgrading to some epyc dual socket motherboard from ebay at some point this year. It's going to be a massive pain, I just want to use the system
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I was hopping until I settled on openSUSE Tumbleweed. It's rolling release and stable and I just like it.
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>>10601 (OP)Been using Fedora/Silverblue the past 5 years, but I'm really tempted by NixOS.
I want the macOS experience where when I get to a new PC/Laptop I download my config file and it autoconfs my machine settings, packages and all.
Tired of backups and tinkertrannying, but maintaining a config file seems like a meme too so I don't know.
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Mint.
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alpine and some small de for really bad specs, debian for stability, arch for newest stuff and linux mint for simplest to use
all troonigger made THOUGH
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>>10601 (OP)Just choose from
https://www.privacyguides.org/en/desktop/ and ignore any other distributions. If you do otherwise you're either stupid or you're doing research in order to contribute with an article that explains the security properties of an interesting distribution.
You are probably looking for something around
https://www.privacyguides.org/en/desktop/#traditional-distributions (the others might be interesting but aren't as useful for the typical user).
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>>10796>>11464NixOS is definitely interesting. I use it when secure boot isn't available (since it seems the default installation doesn't support it and I don't want to mess with that on my own).
I keep some separate files for .gitignore and .profile and things like that (even though those could probably be set up with configuration.nix too). Otherwise, installing software by editing the main configuration file and "switching" the system is quite reliable (though not necessarily fast).
One strange thing is that it seems that the upgrade process doesn't involve changing the main configuration file:
https://nixos.org/manual/nixos/stable/#sec-upgrading â„–11740[Quote]
Just do Debian Sid and quit worrying about it. Start actually building something and you’ll start appreciating having a reliable, capable tool help you do it. Start a programming project. Distrohopping is a waste of time.
>Debian Sid XFCE/Chicago95 desktop
>Arch/Manjaro hlwm i3 w/e laptop
>Amazon Linux for servers
>alpine for containers
>gentoo for my pet rock container
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>>10601 (OP)fedora and debian are the only non-meme distros.
everything else is diy school projects.
debian, however, is more for servers
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>kali bros check in
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>>10601 (OP)these niggers just tell you to use a certain distro instead of actually answering your problem
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT DISTRO YOU USE, THEY ARE BASICALLY ALL THE SAME EXCEPT SUPERFICIAL DIFFERENCES THAT YOU WON'T NOTICE IF YOU JUST USE YOUR COMPUTER LIKE A NORMIE WITHOUT EVEN THINKING ABOUT THE OS
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>>12184The differences are in the way that maintainers treat their distro and community: Just compare Manjaro and Debian.
>>10601 (OP)Question was answered 16834851 times: Everyone has a different use case, do not ask for opinions, gets whats works for you.