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Cringe LARPers

GREG

It is cringe but I would breed her

>>99789
How are they larping. The haka is in their culture

>>99823
A cringe culture.

>>99828
To stay on the point here, whether you like or dislike the culture is irrelevant, they aren’t larping. Do you know what larping means?

>>99832
They're as close to actual Maori as I am. Just a bunch of retards who would never actually go back to raisinting in the woods and eating one another. Their culture was destroyed a long time ago, now they're just like white people. They just want to be treated like they're better than everyone else because of their ancestry. The very definition of racists.

>>99847
You’re making wild baseless assumptions here. They didn’t live in the woods they had villages and practiced agriculture for their food resources, cannibalism was ritualistic similar all over Polynesia and Micronesia. The culture isn’t destroyed kapahaka (schools for Māori dance and waiata) are well established all over nz and within public schools too. Most Māori have ties to their ancestral lands and the ties between the old ways of life are very strong, recently there was been a shift back to Māori spiritual beliefs too. It’s not like America where (assuming you are American due to your ignorance and misplaced confidence) you guys decimated the natives, Māori ways of life continued up until relatively recently. Māori customs are still very much a continuous way of life for many Māori, calling them larpers is inaccurate to say the least

She might be spared death by drone in order to service the needs of foreign megayacht owning billionaires' pet mercenaries

>>99847
Also the whole idea of them wanting to be treated better than white people as racist is a misunderstanding. The crown signed a treaty with many maori (not all) called the treaty of Waitangi, within that it allowed Māori the same protections as British citizens but also allowed Māori to government themselves, only sell land at an agreed price and to hold on to their sovereignty. The crown broke the treaty many times with land confiscations, a lot of this is still be recitatives through the Waitangi tribunal. The idea to make everyone equal is purely for immigration reasons, the new government wants to fast track Asian immigration. Māori did not lose the war of colonisation, they (mostly) agreed to a treaty which was broken by the crown. Māori legally deserve to be treated better and to have land back.

I know it’s pointless to rant on a website like this where zoomers come to be edgy but I fucking hate the americanisation that is happen in nz. I’ve noticed it so much recently, everyone using American terms and jumping in the trump bandwagon, Israel, treating Māori like other natives instead of their own people, accusations of racism meant to demonise solid view points. Get me to another timeline or take back be a few decades

>>100021
I just want to know if there really were people there before the maori, but I'll never know, since the information on it seems politically motivated.

>>100024
There has been no evidence for it, my dad is a firm believer in it but it’s anecdotal evidence and really doesn’t make any sense if you think about it. Māori arrived here roughly 1250 ad, they know the names of all the boats each family travelled here on, their oral history may not be academic but it’s solid and better than a lot of sources we take as gospel. There is Māori mythology about the forest people who have red hair and light skin, the tuhoe Māori are big believers in it iirc, I don’t but it, it’s folklore, same evidence as there is for taniwha which is none. The history of the moriori isn’t fully understood but there is evidence that they were on mainland nz before Chatham Islands and are most likely an isolated splinter group of Māori to developed a similar but different culture, some archaeologists are currently working with a boat that was found recently dated to and thought to be the wreckage of of the first boats that the moriori travelled to Chatham Islands on, pretty cool. I miss /his/

>>100033
THEY SHUT DOWN MY LAPTOP FOR TYPING THIS
FLORIENSIS AND DENISOVANS WERE THERE 30000 YEARS AGO, ABBOS ARE GENETIC. DESCENDANTS
ORAL HIST. MADE UP BY WESTERN SCHOLARS TO HIDE GENET. REAL. HUMANITY

>>100036
You seem unhinged. I would believe it with evidence, it’s too big of a claim

>>100033
There could've been people there that went extinct before maori even got there. Are they even looking for evidence though, or do they just not look because they don't want there to be? It's so easy to say there's no evidence if you never even look.

>>100037
you just swallowed what school taught you, you dont care about evidence anyway, or you'd have come to the conclusion that, at the very least, abbos were there for longer than 1250ad (which doesnt even make sense if you go by the dubious out-of africa theory)
how convenient is it there is only a single human race which comes from a single place? why then, do we see "modern" abbo genes arise 10000's of years before "their" oral history says so? nevermind that, why do we see modern humans spring up in a bunch of places?
why would neanderthalensis move back into africa (already habitated by earlier humans) not interbreed, "evolve" into sapiens (somehow) then spread across the globe with little to no interbreeding? if the out of africa theory is correct modern racial differences are supposed to have developed from homo sapiens relatively recently, when the environmental pressures in these different parts of the world do not explain the rapid development of traits not clearly shown to be beneficial?

>>100039
I mean it depends on the amount of people that were hypothetically here. I would think artefacts/bones would have turned up after the decades of earthworks we have done in this country. I don’t see why they wouldn’t want to say there were older civilisations here if they have the evidence, they are gone now, it’s not like they have a claim of any land or anything. If you are implying the graham hancock theory I’m heavily sceptical of that. It’s easy to say well ‘x’ might have happened and there is just no evidence… you kind of need some shred of evidence if you are going to make bold claims or else it’s just imagination.

>>100039
the oral history of the abbos was first "recorded" by white academics, and is now taught as fact to abbos themselves
the out-of africa theory was made to fit christian doctrine, by "soyientifically" "proving" all humanity originates from an eden located in africa
after ww2 this one-race humanity was promoted and pushed to prevent atrocities like the holocaust from happening again, a white lie for the greater good, but it is nowhere near factual. only a small subsect of academics reseaching prehistory genetics knows the truth, a truth which is unfit for broadcast to the general public

>>100040
Sorry I’m totally sleep deprived and I’m finding it hard to follow what you are saying here. Are you implying that Māori are some how related to aboriginals, are you implying that aboriginals were in New Zealand or are you using aboriginal in the original sense of the word without reference to Australian aboriginals who are commonly referred to as abbos? I haven’t heard about Neanderthals moving back to Africa and not interbreeding, a lot of that Palaeolithic stuff is up to debate and I’m not going to pretend to know what’s happened with all of that though I have heard recently a lot of talk about the out of Africa theory being challenged. Polynesians have more in common with Asians as they are believed to have travelled through Taiwan and into the pacific, Micronesians are a different people and probably interbred with Denisovans more so than any other people.

My brain is working too slow right now to pick up on anything else in this post but I want to say how wild it is that Polynesians most likely traded with South Americans due to the kūmara and genetic evidence.

>>100043
Man, what do you mean by abbo. You are referring to Māori as abbos? Because that’s Australian aboriginals.

>>100048
australian abbos
tldr entire thesis: out of africa, homo sapiens only theories arose from christian theology and were spread due to modern society's belief in equality

>>100045
I’ll have a geez at these tomorrow. Thanks for the resources.

Happy ANZAC to any Kiwi/aussie who may happen to be in here

>>100049
What does Australian aboriginals have to do with this conversation?

>>100041
I don't really know the situation is new zealand or whatever, but discussion about this stuff always seems to be suspicious, same for questions about the existence of pygmies in australia. Discussion always seems politically charged. So you can never know the truth. There's people that try to debunk things for political reasons and also people that try to assert things for political reasons. So I choose not to believe any of them, but I'd still want to know the answer since it's fun to think about different sorts of people that could've existed.

>>100052
australian abbos have been shown to be the genetic descendants from denisovans, who arrived there far earlier than the "aborigine oral history" suggests
this is because "aborigine oral history" was deliberately altered, manipulated and edited by academics to fit the then prevalent out-of-africa theory

>>100055
as such it is a prime example of how YOUVE BEEN LIED TO
for religious and ideological purposes

>>100055
And what's the story about pygmies then in this history version, were they not real, or descended from aborigines, or different migrants altogether, or what.

>>100059
i have only looked into denisovan/neanderthal admixture in modern populations so idk
if i had to guess i'd say they're leftovers from erectus or something, fuck it ill look it up
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2018-08-03/pygmy-people-flores-not-ancestors-hobbit-homo-floresiensis/10065214
indo pygmies evolved short stature a second time, and are unrelated to floriensis (they're neanderthal + denisovan)
https://xzlab.org/papers/2014_Perryetal_PNAS.pdf
this was by far the most resonable analysis i could find on african pygmies
context: there are two theories 1) pygmies are modern humans who developed short stature 2) pygmies are genetically distinct and inherited the short stature
"We can draw four primary conclusions from our analyses. (i) The
African pygmy phenotype has a genetic basis, rather than a solely
environmental one, based on the positive correlation between
stature and Bakiga admixture for Batwa individuals raised in
Batwa communities (Fig. 2 C–E). These results confirm those
obtained from other African rainforest hunter-gatherer pop-
ulations by Becker et al. (12) and Jarvis et al. (6) and are con-
sistent with individual case observations from Cavalli-Sforza (4).
(ii) The Batwa pygmy phenotype is likely polygenic in nature, as
multiple genomic regions were highlighted by our admixture
mapping analysis (Fig. 3A). (iii) The Batwa pygmy phenotype
was likely adaptive in origin, based on the elevated levels of
population differentiation (FST ) and haplotype-based signatures
of selection (iHS) for SNPs within the regions identified by our
admixture mapping analysis (Fig. 4). Finally, the disparate FST
and iHS patterns between the Batwa and the Baka in these
regions, along with generally converse observations for the
regions reportedly associated with stature in west central African
rainforest hunter-gatherers (Fig. 4), suggest that (iv) the pygmy
phenotype evolved convergently within Africa, at least in part.
The possibility of an additional, ancestral component cannot be
excluded, as we have certainly not yet identified the full genetic
basis of the Batwa pygmy phenotype, and one of the genomic
regions we did identify does have a potential ancestral adapta-
tion signature (Fig. S7)."

>>100017
I know about your retard treaty. It was clearly meaningless since the British did whatever they wanted. I’m going to stop trolling for a moment and be real with you. I went to New Zealand and I found the white people in Auckland insufferable. They acted like their tiny city was New York or something, were generally cold, rude, and just plain annoying. The Maori people I spoke to in contrast were lovely, chill, and really quite nice to be around. I feel for them having to deal with Aucklanders all the time, enough to make anyone do a Haka in parliament.

>>100110
Auckland is notorious for being an awful place. If you ask any New Zealander not from Auckland what places to avoid it will be %100 Auckland every time, it’s not really New Zealand imo. I’m sorry you wasted money to go to Auckland, I hope you got to see the real nz

>>100114
It wasn’t so bad. They had lovely museums and a great steak place. We were only in Auckland a few days and drove other places mostly. Just the people there were insufferable.

We spent most of the trip on the South Island. Much nicer.

>>100122
Fair enough with over %30 of our population living there I just hate all the people and noise, it’s too much for my rural brain

>>100065
I meant the fabled australian pygmies.

Any Māori/New Zealand pornstars?

>>100142
first I heard of em

>>100220
>Into hobbits
Yes mr FBI agent this pedo right here

Zamina-mina, he-he
Waka, waka, he-he
Zamina-mina, zangalewa?
This time for Africa

>>100021
What does Israel has to do with Maori?
Are you letting Jews build settlements inside of your head?

>>100021
I'm not sure what you expected from a soyjak website. Are you mad it's challenging your world views? Something drove you to come here. Clearly you're not happy with the mainstream messaging.

>>100558
geg

Why the FUCK did the Empire spare these disgusting polynesian abbo mutts from genocide?
Of all the retarded brown people they deserved it the most. They think they're above kiwis because they had the privilege to not be killed off.

>>100558
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAT AFRICA IS ARYAN