/mtv/ - Media and Interests

>>98056 (OP)
Not as good as their later stuff yeah.

the album after this is their best

>>98056 (OP)
this but for 60s music in general

>>98081
Nah.

>>98056 (OP)
You're not high enough.

>>98083
except Led Zeppelin thats the only based Classic Rock

>>98250
tbh………
DESU…………
Dark side of the moon mogs

>>98304
It isn't even worth including in discussions because it will always get picked. It or The Wall.

>>98299
Zep didn't put out an album until '69.

Animals on LSD >>

>>98083
I will fucking kill you.

They were better without Syd and I'm tired of pretending they weren't

>>98083
It's just not for you. Plain and simple.
The 1960s really weren't that innovative of a decade (in terms of music) outside of psychedelia, especially in comparison to the behemoth that is the 1970s, which had literally everything.
However, that's okay. I think the lack of extreme genre difference and defiance made it a very humble and comfortable decade for music, because the majority didn't have to show off, and it wasn't anything outwardly extreme or outlandish until the later half of the decade. (Roky Erickson, Syd Barrett, Arthur Brown, Tiny Tim, Walter Carlos, Frank Zappa, and Don Van Vliet)
Or exceptions from the earlier half of the decade (Moondog, Joe Meek, and The Monks.)
I personally, really enjoy the pop music from that period.

>>98299
Of what decade? Be more specific. If you meant the 1960s, then I disagree; they would've had more impact on the 1970s, given that their debut was in January of 1969.
Cream, the Byrds, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Big Brother and the Holding Company, the Box Tops, the Grateful Dead, Procol Harum, Vanilla Fudge, Iron Butterfly, the Yardbirds, or even the fucking Monkees would've been more understandable picks.
And The Monkees were like the Big Time Rush of the 1960s.
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If you meant the 1970s? Also disagree. They were based, but they weren't the only based band of that decade, and don't even get me fucking started.
>>98324
I like every track on that album, but the self-titled always gets to me. It's so emotional. It's got that same feeling as listening to the Andrew Oldham rendition of "The Last Time."
Then you wanna cry when "Caroline, No" comes on right afterward.

>>98056 (OP)
pink floyd are overrated

>>98453
the monkees rule fag

My WWII vet grandpa really, really hated psychedelic rock. He was also bad at identifying acid rock and would scold me about listening to the stuff whenever he caught me listening to basic 80s pop like Huey Lewis and the News or Peter Gabriel

Ozzy & Sabbath mog these clowns

I really like meddle and atom hesrt mother. Fuking listening to breakfast sounds for 25 minutes rocks

>>98453
I'd argue that your assessment of of the 1960's in perhaps biased or maybe a tad uninformed?
The 1960s really laid the groundwork for rock and pop music for the following decades.
You've mentioned psychedelia but there's so much more; Electric blues (and the popularization of blues music to a wider whiter audience), country rock, electronic music and the synthesizer. Garage rock/punk rock/heavy metal/hard rock all have their genesis in the 1960s. Folk music became mainstream, Bob Dylan legitimizing rock n roll among a few others proving popular music can be an art form and just not teeny bopper fodder. The maturation of the long play album becoming the standard over the 45rpm single. The concept album (not counting Sinatra OK). Stereo sound.
The standards of the 1970s were built on the innovation of the 1960s.
Some of the most influential musical artists of the 20th century had their heyday in the 60s with The Beatles, Hendrix, The Velvet Underground, Bob Dylan, Stones, The Doors etcetera.
The footprint of the sixies looms large over everything that came after and I'd argue that the 1960s were far more innovative than the 1970s in terms of music; the way it is conceived, performed, recorded, consumed and regarded.

>it’s not good.
you just didn't connect
you really feel the pain in syd's voice in many tracks
Matilda Mother is a masterpiece.
The Gnome is great
Chapter 24 is a masterpiece
The whole album is perfect aside from that one Kosher Waters song.

>>98806
Based Gramps he knew you should be into 2000s emo or punk rock instead like the rest of your school

Nico Sperg here. It's OK but heavily critically overrated. Influential and important for when it came out more than The Beatles but ultimately yk it's lost it's novelty with time. That's just a take on Pink Floyd though. Sure as fuck better than Zappa. Probably not better than Soft Machine or The Moody Blues.

it is good. Better than anything that came out pre-Wall? nah, definitely not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNcaK0D-nEU

>>99833
I tried so hard to like Zappa

>>98318
I think the wall is most overrated. Dark side is obviously gem. This one is pretty great too except for that one track in the middle

underrated

>>>99833 (You)
>I tried so hard to like Zappa

The total lack of songwritting,structure,and focus make it pretty hard. The same way I imagine most of you do not actually hate The Hollies,Nico,or The Velvet Underground.

>>98056 (OP)
After Piper up to Dark side is best Era. Ummagumma, Saucerful, Obscured, Atom Heart etc.

pleb: DSotM
contrarian: tranimals
patrician: Atom Heart Mother

Only people from TikTok can like this 👇👇

>>99916
I don't really do that anymore. Just weed and alcohol really. I just got a new job so I'm trying to you know keep ot relatively tame until I start getting those hours. Keep my life on track. Zappa already drank anyway. He only disapproved of liquor and drugs being marketed towards low income communities mainly.

>>99916
The Velvet Underground weren't really into tripping at all anymore than Zappa was I think. They did drugs more than Zappa did although I'm assuming Zappa was a bit alcaholic coded,but most of their music isn't even about drug use directly except for obviously Heroin and maybe Sunday Morning. More reflective and commentary based. Also "humerous" muchlike Zappa. I would say despite being against the drug more of Zappas work could be directly related back to Acid than Nico or The Underground. Maybe against the drug but nonetheless far more relating back to it. The Velvet Underground moreso sang about alcaholism and heroin which yk I'm assuming is reflective of what they were like somewhat. Probably cocaine and speed too.

Zappa was involved politically so the "anti drug" thing is probably more about human exploitation. If he was truly against substance abuse he would not be smoking 10 to 12 packs a day. That's something you're gonna be feeling. He also clearly drank more than he let on. But these substances were probably less restricted then than they are today and also make you alert and agressive respectively. The CIA Man can't stop Zappa as easily if he's an angry drunk+chainsmokwr and not technically doing anything illegal. So that's all I really think that was. He didn't like where the drugs were coming from but he wasn't exactly a pinicle of clean living.

Nobody is genuinely afraid of pretending s guy who's peaking on lsd. Alcaholics atr both loud and agressive,so Zappa also probably encouraged the substance use he thought would lead to some kind of great revolution and discouraged what he thought wouldn't. If you're drunk you're angry you're less likely to think about consequences and morelikely to act out aggression. Public drunkeness was also more acceptable at the time so Zappae version of the hippies would be both motelikely to fistfight a cop and less likely to get serious drug charges. Since every other song is either about hie institutionalized racism is bad or how everybody should worship ayn rand with no in between it would be VERY VERY VERY surprising if Zappa wasn't aware if this or the use in drugs in social engineering. So I gotta assume that's what the drinking is cool psychedelics are gay and cringe thing he did was actually. You get people drunk and then start telling them all this stuff instead of pot or lsd their response will be more agressive. He very well might have done psychedelics himself and lied about it. That's not a given. But triply he kn3w that alcaholics were gonna be "more useful" to his revolution then people who were tripping really hard. More mobile too. Actually kind of brilliant work on zappas part. Get the hippies on something that will make them less mellow and more volatile to "facilitate real change" or something then explain a bunch of things they could potentially be angry about. Potheads don't cause riots in quite the sme way and that's not just be being a libtard either. That's why Zappa probably wanted you to drink instead of smoking pot or tripping.

>>98056 (OP)
lets hear the album you made

So basically people were morelikely to do the things he wanted or inact the quiet part if he chased away the guys selling acid and kept the liquor at his shows cheap etc. It's maichavelian. You want a revolution so you try and get people drinking and also awake and very angry as opposed to a more "mellow high". Then they're more open to toppeling the government or whatever than less. There is no way that's not what he was actually thinking. More likely to riot morelikely to resist etc. People don't get scared when they get drunk either it really I'd agressive. So he probably thought he was making them into a more effective political force.

>>100334
Lou Reed's drugs of choice were speed and alcohol. White Light White Heat is about speed.
I think it would be best to cut down on whatever you're on because your posting has degenerated into borderline schitzo babble.

>>100346
I basically just said the same raisin you did in more words,but no lol. I'm pretty sober. I was supposed to work today but once again that didn't happen. I'm still on the payroll though. It's like yk kind of a pain in the ass ngl. So if I'm pissy that's probably why. They're paying me for it. But it's also like with the bod girlfriend incident and the le washing le cars I was kinda excited to jut have stable work for a while. Now they're telling me it's "the slow season" though. Which is probably true. But it's like fuck you know laat time you said it's because I was a couple late now you're telling me when I'm early that they went back to the warehouse. So it's idk bro. Sounds like I'm getting paid for both shifts but it's still like I actually wanted to work unironically. So it's like fuck you know if you don't have the work don't string me along the next three months for nothing. Idk. The job market is abysmal so I'll probably stick with it. I'm still being paid so it makes more sense than to not.

>>100346
You're a retard growing around meme words. Zappa knew the bulk of his fanbase were inherently stupid so he tried engineering and manipulating them into doing what he wanted. It's not really schizo at all it's pretty blatant. You get people drunk and then get them angry.

>>100349
Is Zappa in the room with you right now?

>>100357
Is pussy in the room with you ever?

>>100348
Whenever I read your posts, I feel so much better about myself and my life. Thanks Nico fag!

>>100399
That's a very delusional response given that I still got paid for today and you don't work at all ever but if it will make you act less like an absolute spastic then I'll take it. Literally everything about my life is better than yours garunteed though.

>>100399
The answer to pussy having ever been in the room with you is no I take it?

>>100406
I guess that weed you’re smoking isn’t helping the self-awareness much eh? I can send you some actual good raisin and Mexican brick weed, and then maybe you can actually start realizing.

>>100437
You don't even know what "self awareness" is. Take care.

>>100437
I haven't had Mexican Brick Weed in years but alright. I get youre lying but still lol.