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You don't need a job when you make 100x gains from crypto lil bro
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>>7090Yeah alright but then why is everyone here talking about how they have a raisinty job and are waiting for ONE DAY hitting big.
Sounds like the odds aren't great.
And I don't like gambling.
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Also it doesn't seem like people who do this kind of stuff are in average massively richer than people with good jobs.
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>>7082 (OP)Getting a good job requires nepotism. No connections

=no $. Your degree doesn't really matter that much.
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>>7102Vielleicht. Mahl sehen oder so was.
I like cooking and baking, I'll try to become a pastry chef. I'm in a good country when it comes to cooking job opportunities.
I'd like some advice in what would be more profittable/easy after that.
Working in a restaurant / hotel as a pastry chef ? Working in a pastry shop ? Or having a tea/cafe shop with home made pastries to go along.
Can /biz/ help me on this subject, considering my country, what works and so on ?
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Find a mechatronics program, they might have one at your nearest community college. Get a job programming PLCs. It's easy, not completely boring (all jobs are boring to some degree), you're given a great deal of freedom compared to other jobs, you can get 6 figures after you get a few years experience, and you'll have good job security. This is one of those fields that's mostly old guys, so lots of opportunity for young guys starting out. Automation isn't going anywhere, doubly so if Trump succeeds in bringing manufacturing back.
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>>7113Don't know about france, but our traitorous goverment nuked the entire food service industry. I would personally go either the self-employed route, which requires start capital or try my luck as michelin-star chef.
tbh just do something you're passionate about, a high paying raisinty job is still an insufferable experience
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>>7136>nuked the entire food service industryIm refering to covid times. Forgot to clarify that
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>>7095Having a job IS gambling during the collapse singularity hybrid event.
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>>7136The food industry, and especially the restauration industry suffered from COVID when that happened, but it somehow got back up. Thanks to the obsession of the french with spending money i guess, but I'm not complaining.
The problem nowadays lies mostly with the younger generation which isn't ready to spend a whole lot in restauration and therefore in traditional restaurants anymore. Instead, fast foods and take out foods restauration is growing massively, so it has almost become a must for restaurants nowadays to have a take out service.
It's a bit strange, but I guess that pastry shops shouldn't suffer from that TOO much. Taking out is the norm in pastry shops anyway.
The more I think about it, the more I think you're right.
Traditional restaurants are dying, restauration is now in extremes it seems, either high end michellin star restaurants or fast food. Therefore working in a restaurant might not be the smartest choice. I'll take that into account.
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>>7139Yeah same here, I mean we more or less went through the same raisin.
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>>7146Isn't that true for everything though ? Not like you can control your life in such an event, unless you're a 1% elite or something along those lines.
At least having useful skills might serve you. Or do I get that wrong too ?
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>>7095The entire point of a job is to make money
If you can make money on financial markets why do you need a job?
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>>7169In my honest and uneducated opinion on the matter, I'd say that IRL jobs have these advantages :
>While the society is not collapsing, probably more stable>You learn useful skills>You are physically active>You get human interaction>Depending on what you do, you can do something funWhat you guys do sounds more stressful and unfun tbh, also I doubt I'd get a lot of social interaction.
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>>7180I guess most of us don't have fun jobs
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>>7082 (OP)because it is nod advice board!
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>>7185and all business is arbitrage anyways
financial markets are just more abstract but both are essentially the same thing
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>>7188I guess so, as long as you guys enjoy what you're doing.
I think it'd be fun if you had some expertise on stuff outside of trading and such. It'd become a real business board.
But maybe too complex, I don't know how that all works, I'm dumb.
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>>7168Hey leave my raisinpost alone! don't (You) me!
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>>7189the original 4/biz/ board was called Business & Finance not "inquries"
>>7200to be fair I really enjoy finance
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>>7202Ight gotchu.
My bad for interrupting your guys' business then. And alright thenk I may have judged you guys too quickly. I hope you do make it big someday then.
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>>7113>>7161sry, food service industry is for brown algerians now
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>>7095Takes money to make money o algo.
There's some luckyfag neets who turned their tendie bucks into millions by being early in crypto at the right time. But most people need to invest their paychecks and gamble it on crapto
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>>7082 (OP)you are eurorich, so according to statics you are probably rich and may have a car, try being a taxi driver or something like that
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here's good advice, acquire a skill or start your own business.
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99%+ of people who make it start out young with nothing work hard for ten years at something they are good at and enjoy ..then eventually start investing/ speculating smarter or reinvest in their own business.. itβs a mostly a 20-25 year process.. making massive money instantly when young is 1 in million shot that requires enormous luck.. the 20 year+ grind is how I got established ..itβs pretty satisfying anyway 1st ten years of it I didnβt give a fuck about wealth , just wanted girls , cars , hang out with mates , play sports and music anyway..
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>>7571Tbh you sound like a drop kick who wasted his 20s on girls, sports, partying, music and had to pick up the peices in your 30s.
GG you stunted your own development and proud of it m8?
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>>7082 (OP)working is fucking gay. do you want advice on getting a boyfriend too?
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>>7082 (OP)Job advice tends to go out of date by the time you're done training for it outside of specific extremely durable industries. Stuff where you're always going to have available jobs regardless of economic trends and/or recession: healthcare, law enforcement (cops), fire department (highly competitive though and small number of openings), residential trades, industry related to urban utilities. Almost everything else is boom and bust. There are a lot of IT grads, engineers, and "just learn to code"rs who can't find an internship FOR FREE.
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>>7100It is harder to become a doctor than it is to simply reinvest your money into bitcoin derivatives during the market lows. My current plays are waiting for crypto exchange IPOs, such as Webull (8xd after ipo, currently 3x ipo). Catching one early, if bitcoin is bulling, will be easy money. From there it's a matter of rolling 200-300k in profits over into slower plays, such as TQQQ. In my ideal world it would be like 10x on ipo->market dumps after I get out->TQQQ back around 20 bucks->I go in and let it carry me uphill for 3 or so years.
>>7134I was thinking of getting into radiology because it's similar but I can fuck fat single moms but this might be the kind of industrialized autism I enjoy more so I'll look into t.
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>>7634> Tbh you sound like a drop kick who wasted his 20s on girls, sports, partying, musicWell I do live in pic related with no debt
>put another shrimp on the barbie cobberLong answer: No I think I state I found something Iβm good at (resources and finance) and worked hard at it from age 20 until I cracked it at 30 but enjoyed life and wasnβt a miserable mercenary fuck
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>>8064> do you want advice on getting a boyfriend too?lmao
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>>8450>massive faggot driveway and grasskill your lawn and then yourself
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>>8459>massive faggot driveway and grasswhy is this bad?
When it comes to houses and land the bigger the better
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>>8450Bro, you're a fag. Your house gives it away
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>>>7095
>Having a job IS gambling during the collapse singularity hybrid event.
This soyjack is correct. My biggest fear is being at work during a major happening.
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>>8707>poorfag soyjacks You get turned down for jobs at McDonaldβs ..I can tell
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there are plenty of wagejobs out there to make one (barely) survive but there is no real purposeful work out there to make one to thrive. the only other option for young men to make it (it seems) is to gamble. it's the sign of a society without opportunities. the rolemodel for this generation is the crypto rich neet living a quiet and unbothered life. old /biz/ was the headquarter of this crypto-neet idea but with the switch to sojak the board's tone was changed (sign-tapper style) it seems away from gambling (by banning jeets) and again towards more value investor themed assets (which can include solid "meme" coins).
anyways, if real irl work ever comes back this board might die OR actually gave good advice for irl business and entrepreneurs. right now it's stuck somewhere inbetween hence why it's maybe dead in here.
tldr: everybody is waiting out this resession = no business = dead /biz/
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>>7082 (OP)>Why don't you people give advice on how to get a good job ?Okay, go get a professional license of some sort. Then you will have job security.
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>>7082 (OP)that's easy investing is not if you're not investing in raisincoins, learning terminology is key to investing. for beginners. this place just acts as a litmus test, and a place to gain some foundational knowledge.