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>FUCK SOIJAK POSTERSHere we talk about the source code leak of 4chan's proprietary software Yotsuba and try to "fix" it in order to make a proper open-source version of 4chan's (sh!tty) software, for example by fixing bugs such as the colored border on GIF thumbnails and making it work on modern, traditional server setups.
<REDDIT SPACEGet the source code here:
https://files.catbox.moe/d56ws8.7z â„–9270[Quote]
>>9263The language and way of speaking IS the cryptography tech and business and government all use. You're more likely to get a job and be trusted just from knowing similar things, having similar experiences, living a similar life. That's it, that's all it takes to start building trust. That's the way 'normies' think and behave.
Then there are other people, like me, who don't have that. They aren't interested in that, they're self centered and won't build relationships unless someone else is willing to first.
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>>9270Whoops! That's exactly wrong, and it's the opposite. Everyone in tech fights over each other for money and status, completely oblivious to the fact that them more homogenous they become, the less they learn. It's crazy that when you limit yourself to only some perspectives (decrease sample size and complexity), you hobble yourself (because of fewer inputs) and learn less than you would if you interacted with someone new.
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For example 9xy would be any non-9 number, and yx. There's your captcha system.
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>>9271>>9272What are you trying to say? That you don't want a "proof of person-hood" system but a "proof of I'm not a basic bitch normie"? Some sort of weird Turing Test basically.
What do you do when it inevitably passes that test and you're outnumbered data-center to one?
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Another example then. A picture of a group of 6 trees. Any non-6 number, and say the word 'ax'
>>9275 I'm saying a proof of personhood irl. Not on the internet.
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>>9263By the way, it all makes sense now, that's why OpenAI announced they wanted to release a social network.
100% it will use Altman's Worldcoin to provide Sybil resistance.
X, Fb and all, are bot infested raisinholes, and seeing how dead all alt-chans are makes me think the 4cuck's bot problem was bigger than I thought.
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>>9277do you know the art exhibit 'Cryptos' that's outside of CIA headquarters?
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Anyway, it's a famous cryptography puzzle that remains unsolved. It was commissioned by the CIA and the artist hid meanings and messages to be solved in it. Very symbolic of the CIA right? Anyway, all but the last of the messages were solved. Pretty interesting huh?
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I sure hope someday someone comes along to solve that mystery. Unless it was intentionally unsolvable. But who's to say, go waste time trying to solve something you weren't meant to solve anyway.
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CAN AN AI SOLVE CRYPTOS. I WONDER IF ANYONE HAS TRIED. I don't do AI though whoops.
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Guys it's so crazy ChatGPT won't solve it. Is there another AI that can? I'm new I don't know many.
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Also, it's 'Kryptos' for those googling, my mistake.
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It only knows what we tell it. So tell it it's solvable. Tell it it can do it. And if it can't, congrats you win. But if it can't solve it, why? Because it wasn't meant to be solved, and there is no answer. How do you make it unsolvable for computers only and not people? You do it by NEVER KEEPING IT OR PUTTING IT ONLINE.
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take your meds. You're going full shizo mode rn.
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Maybe schizo mode is good huh? What part is crazy or unbelievable to you?
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>Maybe schizo mode is good huh? What part is crazy or unbelievable to you?
you're literally arguing with yourself, minutes apart.
Maybe you're not that interesting or aren't decoding the matrix. Think about it.
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Wait what? The philosophical concept of the world being a simulation is no where near this conversation's subject matter? There is another way to interpret my messages you know. Everyone does it inside their minds. You CONTEMPLATE IDEAS BY GOING BACK AND FORTH FROM YOUR OPTIONS. It's not crazy for someone to do that inside of a chat. It's just that it's 'normie' behavior. Fuck the sociological and psychological ramifications though, I could even just be being tonally sarcastic, which you would know all about, since you like talking down to people for their ideas.
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That second sentence you can read sarcastically and a little hostile as well. Don't throw around psychological terms willy nilly when you know nothing about the person or situation. Dipraisin out.
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neither do i reject, deny or deconstruct any of yout statements, nor do i imply you are crazy for them.
That was your reaction to me observing and commenting on your behavior in the simplest of all observable things: your posting frequency.
Now reread our convo and you might get an idea why i wanted you to get back on your meds. Or take a nap, maybe you lack sleep? Whatever helps you out man.
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>mfw i actually got manual image approvals working
>wtf
i went and duplicated a lot of how the reports feature works for jannies (and mods and admins), made a new image requests DB table, a new column for posts, and a trigger that pushes image requests into the image request table for posts that have images (or attachments), then hooked it all up
then it was a bit of a pain, but i found where there's one big query for rebuilds that builds some memory structure, and in it, i put a check that if a post had an image and wasn't approved, i would replace its details hardcoded image details, which i got by just uploading the placeholder image and skimming it from the DB
>that's at imgboard.php, maybe line 991, `$log[row_no] = $row`
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>>9458
eat my ass
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>>4883there were ~15 hosts in the 4chin hosts file but some of those might have just been admin boxes
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>>9206i've simplified the idea even further (with the original idea): distort things at the feature level. (so not a wordcloud of words, not a lettercloud of letters, but a linecloud of one letter, and maybe we can have other features than lines)
i've whipped up a JS snippet that can create these in canvas elements, this also fools claude, but it also makes me have to think for a bit
"What letter do you see in the image?"
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>>9423aw thats neat, least with mpa it would be safer to host a public ib
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>>9263>Instead of captcha has anybody looked into ZK proof of humanity or something similar?Could you explain how this works? Presuming you understand it. I've read the links. Doesn't a server managed by Rarimo or Self get to see a picture of your passport, or can your device turn the passport into a ZK proof all by itself?
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>>4613 (OP)Nice try Hiro.
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>>9566Godspeed. If it's taken you a week to do all of this and have a semi-functioning IB then 4cuck is definitely screwed with their infinitely more incompetent devs
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>>9566i love your site the image approval system is great i hope you attract a significant userbase
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>>9972i thought about that, but there'd be a very easy attack against that:
you take the frames of the animated captcha and "smear" them together (or combine them in some way), and the underlying features should very quickly become apparent to a machine
so it has to be just one frame
(unless maybe the word or letters or whatever were moving like in your video)
except that would also be vastly more complicated to make, this image is made with some very simple JS, written better it'd easily be under 100 very simple lines of code
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>>4759nice
now I can host my own chan and make a million dollars just like Hiroshimoot
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>>7986>unpaid, no compensation So they weren't being paid?
In other words they were working, for free?
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>>4643Stuff like that is what made the code moon gravity light and inexpensive to run. You just want to create traffic bloat
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>>4688Don’t bother, these people write. 43 megabyte hello world, see the poster above you complaining about where the jpg image size work is done, and not groking why that works. These coders today don’t even know what grok in reference to coding means
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>>9566You are so fucking based
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>>7519If your posts were being picked up by the threat score you were too NPC even for a copypasta site. Consider downgrading to Facebook memes, lol what an utter tool
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second rebuild daemon for /v/ should now be running, and i've started my autistic and tortuous process of getting to the point where i am now, but again, this time you get to see the code being written while i do it (this won't be a "here's the source for my implementation" or even a guide, really, my implemenation right now is horsedoodoofeces, so i'll have my server running, while building another, when mine catches up to the former i'll snapshot the former, transfer everything from the former to the latter, then kill the former. eventually, the earliest notes compress to sort of look like a guide while the latter notes might be a bit more schizo)
https://gitgud.io/dizzyhavoc/dizzychanit's a specialty of mine to do things this way
or a disability
not sure yet
have a visualization of a maybe novel logarithm approximator (graph has log axes)
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4cdn.org is back up if you need to scrape any static files.
Also they didn't block the mobile site
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>>10618they unlocked it back I think
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up
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I remember when Max was trying to rewrite 4chan and hosted it on a test board on YTMND. Does anything like that exist in the source and git?
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>>10798From what I understand, no. Max rewrote the board software because it was insecure and raisinty, then (from what I've heard) moot wanted terms that would relinquish the ownership of the software (4chan would be free to use it and sell it and change it as they wanted) and authorship (that max would not be formally credited as the author of the updated/redesigned board software).
That was apparently a no-go for Max (and I don't blame him) and that's why the new board software never became what productively ran 4chan.
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>>5339leto said 4chan has cf cp scanner off doe
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>>4702you still have to maintain it and keep it up to date nigga
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>>51754chan would perform the same with threads with well over a few hundred or thousand replies
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this website is ass
the captcha ideas in this thread are intrigueing
dizzychan is… slow, as in traffic. but encouraging, interesting the thing about shadowbans, wonder if that was to stop spam
opensourcing it or what?
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>>11019i guarantee going through the code the pseudo shadowbans and fucked up authentication logic HAD to have been blocking a huge amount of real people from using 4chan
some of the "algorithms" or conditional blocks that filter people out have comments or descriptions, like a certain block that will show people fake thread-post-success screens if they post from a certain IP range and the moon is a certain phase
see pic related, 3 out of dozens of thread-posting block algorithms, each ending in `show_post_successful_fake(` (function calls pointed at by red lines, different algos highlighted in different colors, and this is nowhere near all of them or even a fraction of them)
90% of the actual "functional backend code" is in their homebrewed "twister" captcha and these arbitrary "threat level" generation/decision/action algorithms
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>>11041any idea where/which .php file they generate the per-thread user/poster IDs? was always curious what went into generating those
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>>11049see image attached, i am pretty sure this is it, should have the right filename and roughly the right line number, seems there's an option to make it random, but if not random, it uses your ip address, i think the date down to the day, then a hash with a salt chosen from an arbitrary pre-generated random data file hidden on the server, a base_64 encoding, then snips a bit of that encoding into the displayed ID
(if i understand right)
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>>11041i rage quit 4chan so many times because my effort posts that i made to genuinely help some anons with niche questions got spam filtered. i could not fix it no matter how much i changed the letters with no idea which one is the problem, or no matter how much i rephrased the post.
not only that but this leak also vindicates that i'm not a schizo and 4chan would eat your posts, right? it would show successfully posted but the post would never show up. this also happened to completely random posts i made to help anons.
if you ever wonder why 4chan is slowly dying it must be because people find out the freedom is actually bullraisin and rage quit. in my mind it's things like these that make 4chan no different than reddit/instagram/facebook/xitter even more so than culture.
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>>11041I have been informed it wasn't very good PHP but is it long PHP like lines upon lines of horror or under 350?
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>>11103imagine if /qa is back
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>>11106the entire codebase is close to 200k lines but that includes duplicative stuff like per-board configs and whatnot
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>>5353IIS runs on 20% of webservers
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>>11103i stopped posting after the 900 second timer. people (shills or retards probably) would make their bot threads about how BTC is "a rugpull" and by the time I saw them halfway through, it would genuinely and literally be too late for me to post anything. after 900 seconds of waiting, it'd hit 300+ posts of misinformation and slide off the board.
and seeing all the schizo-tier "fuck with posters" rules is indeed validating, since these could only ever fuck with real human beings
watching myself get filtered by all these when recreating this confirmed that they hit regular people all the time. i was being stopped from posting due to 3 of those rules and two of my friends (small sample size, but 100% of us) were being sent to hCaptcha purgatory for using VPNs
>>11106the formatting is horrible, that picture is some of the nicest formatted code. you could always hit it with a linter, but that doesn't solve like how the filter algorithms aren't function calls, but a something like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of lines of chained conditionals, and some of the actual logic parts of the code are horrible (hashing hashes to make it more secure; doesn't make sense if you know anything about cryptography)
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>>11019just put up /biz/ /g/ and /sci/ although no idea if there's any weird crap in the code that causes those to explode (disabled PDFs)
situation is odd. to get the thing running the first time, i "went monkey mode" so the code and setup is terrible but it worked quickly; this is how most people program all the time
https://gitgud.io/dizzyhavoc/dizzychan/-/tree/init-dthis branch contains my most recent iteration, which is me going through my 300k+ characters of notes and trying to make the setup a lot more sane and concise
that iteration isn't usable yet, but it's promising, if i understand correctly you can get to a working imgboard page in maybe a few minutes as most of the setup is being done by scripts
i notoriously do not "market" the things i make, so traffic on everything of mine is usually tiny unless other people do their own thing with it, and here that might be better due to the dubious nature of the source code
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>>112744chan is horribly coded, even this site who has a single active developer is better developed than it
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>>11041>fake thread-post-success screensthis happened to me a lot
>>11103>i rage quit 4chan so many times because my effort posts that i made to genuinely help some anons with niche questions got spam filtered.I cannot count how many wall of text effort posts went to the raisinter, I stopped effortposting and just dropped low tier bait instead.
>>11117/biz/ I think was the worst board on 4chan since 2019 maybe 22 if we stretch it.
Became so bad /g/ became ones again my main after almost 5 years.
4chan is dead to me especially after the two X normie posts they made on their supposedly dead account.
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>>11117>>11103WTF you guys posted? I never got filtered after 300 second timeout.
Wete you guys on VPN?
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uo
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>>11320i actually blocked out how bad /biz/ got in my mind completely. i got my "start" on life from posting about my token there, but at some point the /biz/ jannies and/or mods and up (could be the whole company, i don't know) started colluding and extorting people who made cryptocurrency or else their threads would be spammed, brigaded, and/or just wiped silently off the board and you'd get banned for "advertising" (while 100 other garbagecoin actual scam threads would be up, each putting in less than one percent of the effort you did)
then they put in the mememail filter while still allowing jeet scams to flood the board
>>11321i got filtered just on my test board for being "a new user" (there's extensive tracking of users and if you're new to the system you're considered a threat. since that was a brand new database, everyone was considered essentially a lethal threat and shown fake post success screens or sent to captcha hell), but i lurked so much i don't recall if/how much i got filtered on 4chan
i really don't know how any human being was intended to post, i could be more easily convinced the entire thing was 99.999% psyop dead internet
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4chins is back up (read only for now)
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>>11372Can you expand on the extortion and collusion? They accepted binance-tier bribes to keep shill threads up? Is this why emails were enforced?
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>>11412blogpost warning, skip to <BLOGPOST END> or <TLDR>
i made a token on ETH back in 2020, put up some threads on /biz/, got a bit of attention, brought enough people into a telegram channel for me to make a discord and twitter (twitter was removed later, that site is cancer) and start a little community
that's how it should have worked
at some point in late 2021, i made a new token and migrated everyone to it, and then all of my threads started getting nuked and i started catching bans for "advertising". this was done extremely aggressively
i eventually gave up and just bought ads and that was very meh because most people just use adblockers
in the last year, i did all that again (sort of a theme for me to restart but bring everyone along) and the newest token was absurdly successful
<BLOGPOST END>i then started to get direct messages on telegram from someone who wanted to make me a deal: i pay them a flat fee per month (a huge amount for a hobbyist, i think they wanted $500 per month or more), and they will not only allow my threads to exist on /biz/, but they will post on those threads to make it seem like there's genuine activity (they basically spend all day posting and trying to figure how to make posts that seem legitimate. i think they were the "most legitimate seeming", and this was due to them not being a classic "organization and psyop" but unfortunately they went too far the other way and were a den of depraved faggots), shill it on other social media, etc.
they had a private telegram channel for coordinating this.
i'm a retard and a schizo, so i didn't save proof of any of this, and what i did instead was immediately notice that their private telegram channel was full of the most absurdly degenerate trash i've ever seen in one place. think the worst of the worst of gooners and "bbc" spammers and trannies, probably the people responsible for all that sort of spam on 4chan and elsewhere on the internet, all in that private telegram channel
<TLDR>there's a private telegram channel full of bbc-posters, trannies, gooners, and absolute degenerates who charge $500 a month to people who have tokens and these same people infest the posters, janitors, and mods of 4chan. if you pay them, they won't ban threads about your token, and they will generate activity on 4chan and elsewhere about your token. can't prove anything or recall the name because when i saw the kind of disgusting garbage they were posting casually i insta-blocked all of them for being giga-faggots
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What's the most official and progressed fork of the codebase, is it Dizzychan?
https://gitgud.io/dizzyhavoc/dizzychanI would like to launch my own chan based on the leaked codebase, I tried to get
https://gitgud.io/GapeNewell/OpenYotsuba running but I ran into loads of issues after I ran the initialisation php file
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>>11424Sounds believable but no proofs
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uo
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Development on OpenYotsuba 0.3.0 will resume eventually. The main aim of it is fixing bugs and unhardcoding sh!t.
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>install netbeans 8.0.2 on the other pc
>file dated from 2018
>installer says it supports php
gem alarm
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>>11882wtf it shows the splash screen then closes?
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>>11945literally just works and never uses over 1gb of ram
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>damn, not bad, only 2 errors that i dont know how to fix + setting up mysql lol
dizzychan anon here, the only time i think i saw an end of file error was because of a template(?) file (or file containing a template) where PHP was mixed with HTML had a short tag sneakily wedged halfway through the template
no idea if that's the same for you (if you enabled short tags or don't have a problem with short tags)
if i was to guess from the image it looks like a PHP tag opening into `<?php =$form['id'] ?>` and maybe the equals sign shouldn't be there
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>>11872Nice
>>11462Yeah, trying to figure out myself as well.
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>>11957upgrade your core 2 duo cheap ass nigga
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Things I've done
>Ads are now disabled by default (to disable them on 0.2.0, open both files in config/categories and change "ADS_DANBO=yes" to "ADS_DANBO=no"
>Added WebP support (this file format is a bitch due to the lack of support, but thankfully GD, the library used to generate thumbnails, supports it)
>Un-hardcoding links
Full IPv6 support is planned next.