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'chived btw
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>>6027probably a fake name
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>>6025not needed, all you need is a website and google voice or other burner number with professional sounding voicemail instructions
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>>6031Do you think it may be a honeypot?
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>>5974
trvke but interracial marriage isn't le bad
>>5972
gemmy
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>>6032to catch actual p purveyors? no. to spread wide net for blackmail for future politicians and figured? sure
>oops we found this meme on your phone from 10 years ago that originated on a pedo site, hope you werent thinking of decreasing our budget/witholding private user data/backdoors in your site>but i didnt even download it, it was posted by someone else!>is that a complaint? β6037[Quote]
>>6031>15 membersnothingburger
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Serious question. What do you guys have against MAP's who follow the law?
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>>6038fuck off catchan nigger
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Here's every single member of the mod team here btw. Sherlock every last one.
https://visionsofalice.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=6Some other users you can datamine on the music board:
https://visionsofalice.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=129 β6045[Quote]
User doxx: Mooshika
Full name: Michael Burton(maybe), lives in The Junction, Newcastle on Tyre, England
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wow we should kill these people with rocks
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it is a shame governments worldwide let people like these thrive, bump
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nice honeypot
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>>5938>Ok. Dox THEM((((Judianne Densen-Gerber)))
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lets go!
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it's hard to believe these people aren't ironic trolls but I think it's a little too much content for that
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>>6057what an innocent world u live in
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I want to help but i'm not touching that website
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stop shilling your pedo site by
constantly sametrooning "bumo"s. you tried shilling it here before, now youre doing it again.
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>pedophilia le bad even doe kids make my dick twitch
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Any updates on the doxxing?
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Holy shit
And the feds? They just let this happen?!
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I found out about place 5 months ago. I don't know why I didn't make a thread on it here earlier.
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Bros… I'm not shocked anymore. What do I do?
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>>6068>>6067Email their host provider abuse@flokinet.is
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Please guys lets report them by emailing their host abuse@flokinet.is
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>>6070>>6069Emailed them, it was short though.
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DONβT LET THEM SLIDE THIS βHEAD
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MAPS won, this is a pedo site
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.
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their domain provider is
https://privacyprotect.org/ which we can report them to for abuse as well
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>>6045A user of visions of alice, their shitty little secret pedo board that you need admin permission to join
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>>6083same deal as flokinet, if they get enough emails about it they might take action even if it "just" contains links to places that host 'p
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BUMP
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>>5957yes, report and kill these paedos, try to get a lawsuit going so they leak all their personal info.
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>>6083yes it contains 'p pedonigger
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In practise having sex with kids is the same whether AOC laws exist or not, all that matters is the consent of the parents. If the parents consent nobody will accuse you of anything, this is how religious minorities in the USA get away with it all the time.
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>>6093Glowies run the site
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>>6095honeypot or something
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Maybe we should try reading it first, maybe their logic is sound.
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Please keep the thread alive
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bumperino
lets deplatform pedoshits
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>>6098HE WAS RAPED
REMEMBER POOG'S BROTHERINO
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bum]
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>>5913this whole fucking website is probably bait
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>>610716 years in the making
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bumo
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>>5947Do NOT post their 'p
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>>6090is it true some states let you marry kids with parental consent?
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>>6106>The modern LGBT (2SLGBTQQIA+ among other variations [1]) lobby is famously insistent and defensive in its distancing attempts towards MAPs. Young LGBT people are routinely lied to by older community leaders about the history of their movement in embracing pederasts/pedophiles, providing shelter to "loved boys" and agitating for the removal of Age of Consent laws[2] - for example, at the 1985 ILGA conference detailed below. They are also taught to ignore the pederastic roots of their movement, the importance of numerous subversive pederasts, and presence of teenage hookers at Stonewall to name but a few inconvenient truths.
>To MAPs, and others using MAP awareness to their advantage in a debate:
>When LGBT people deny these facts, they may be corrected using the sources here. While LGBT Validity Policing frequently takes place on social media (and at the same time, many of us do not presently wish to associate with the LGBT Movement), it is still important to point out uncomfortable historical facts.
>There are also arguments in favor of identifying MAPs as "queer", or at least building alliances with others who feel marginalized by or disappointed with the corporate nature of the modern mainstream LGBT community and identity.
>A timelineWe use pink highlighter to draw attention to key developments.
>1858-1969>The very beginnings of the gay movement were literally steeped in pederastic imagery, since it represented most of homosexuality's recorded history. In Britain and America, the English-originating literary/cultural movement and group of writers known as the Uranians (1858-1930), including Oscar Wilde, Edward Carpenter, Gerard Manley Hopkins and Ralph Chubb, challenged anti-homosexual prejudice through writing on the subject of Ancient Greece or "Greek Love": the love between older males and male youth.
>The Uranian writer John Addington Symonds (profiled on BoyWiki),[3] inspired by "gay" (pederast) author Walt Whitman, is credited as being the 1st person to use the term "homosexual" in the English-language[4] in his book A Problem in Greek Ethics, written in 1873 and privately printed in 1901. This work was also the 1st to use the term "boy-love", considered accurately as another form of homosexuality in the Uranian effort to defend and advocate for same-sex love. The American Uranian poet Edward Perry Warren[5] also authored an early defense of same-sex love, in his 3-volume magnum opus (1928-1930), A Defence of Uranian Love. In an earlier defense of homosexuality published in 1749, the English writer Thomas Cannon's Ancient and Modern Pederasty Investigated and Exemplified argued: "Unnatural Desire is a Contradiction in Terms; downright Nonsense. […] Nature sometimes assumes an unusual Appearance; But the extraordinary Pederast seeking Fruition, is as naturally acted as the ordinary Woman's Man in that Pursuit."[6] Finally, "the first homosexual novel", Alcibiades the Schoolboy (1652) by Antonio Rocco, portrays age-gap homosexuality / pederasty (reprinted in 2000 with an Afterword by Mader.
>The first anthology of homosexual literature to be published in America - Men and Boys: An Anthology (1924) - is credited to the American Uranian poet Edward Mark Slocum. "In Inversions, the first French homophile periodical" published from 1924-1926, the Queer historian Kadji Amin writes that, "two men with such opposed politics as Camille Spiess, a Swiss-born fascist sympathizer, and Andre Gide, a leftist critic of colonialism, both celebrate pederasty as a virile culture-building and nation-sustaining form of homosociality" (Amin, p. 117).[7] A member of the first French homophile organization "Arcadie" (founded in 1954)[8], recalls that βback in the 1950s, the idea of a stable, lifelong partnership with someone his own age was not part of his personal homosexual identityβ and goes on to relate this to the unavailability of a homosexual identity distinct from pederasty before the 1980s" (Amin, footnote 51, p. 220).[9] As shown by MAP ally gay historian Hubert Kennedy, one of the earliest and longest lasting gay journals - the Swiss Der Kreis (The Circle) published from 1932 to 1967 and distributed internationally - published numerous short stories and poetry about men and youths in sexual relationships as well as drawings of pubescent boys.[10] Der Eigene (The Self-Owner, 1896-1932), the very first Gay Journal, focused on pederastic writings and photography, and "advocated classical pederasty as a cure for the moral flabbiness of German youth". Scans are available via Wikipedia.[11]
>"The issue of love between men and boys has intersected the gay movement since the late nineteenth century, with the rise of the first gay rights movement in Germany. […] A few (Hans BlΓΌher, for example, famous for his book on the Wandervogel movement) believed that pederasty and male bonding provided a basis for a stronger nation and state - a view that, in a perverted form, found a distorted expression in the militarism of the Hitler Youth.https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unityThey literally make the argument for us
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'TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENS DO THIS
TOTAL PEDOID DEATH IS SHARTY CULTURE
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>>6113There's alot more leftist pro-pedo "memes" like that pic on the site. You should keep digging and save everything to redpill some normies
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>>6075>>6076Look at these pedoids seething & coping kek
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>Communism
>Youth rights, including the sexual liberation of children, is compatible with some interpretations of communism/socialism (these terms are used interchangeably by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, but are sometimes distinguished by Leftist individuals and tendencies). One Reddit post[1] claims that "by contemporary standards, Jenny von Westphalen "groomed" Karl Marx", as does a short youtube video.[2] Marxism views the nuclear family as a means for the subordination of children and women, exploitation upon which capitalism is supposedly dependent. Family values – monogamy, homophobia, sexual suppression/repression, and other enemies of free love – are enforced to maintain the traditional family unit.
>According to some communists/socialists, extending rights to the young would undermine the father's place of power and interrupt the inheritance of class and acceptance of classist models.
>Marx and Engels on age-gap sex
>What, then, does promiscuous sexual intercourse really mean? It means the absence of prohibitions and restrictions which are or have been in force. We have already seen the barrier of jealousy go down. If there is one thing certain, it is that the feeling of jealousy develops relatively late. The same is true of the conception of incest. Not only were brother and sister originally man and wife; sexual intercourse between parents and children is still permitted among many peoples today. Bancroft (The Native Races of the Pacific States of North America, 1875, Vol. I), testifies to it among the Kadiaks on the Behring Straits, the Kadiaks near Alaska, and the Tinneh in the interior of British North America; Letourneau compiled reports of it among the Chippewa Indians, the Cucus in Chile, the Caribs, the Karens in Burma; to say nothing of the stories told by the old Greeks and Romans about the Parthians, Persians, Scythians, Huns, and so on. Before incest was invented β for incest is an invention, and a very valuable one, too β sexual intercourse between parents and children did not arouse any more repulsion than sexual intercourse between other persons of different generations, and that occurs today even in the most philistine countries without exciting any great horror; even βold maidsβ of over sixty, if they are rich enough, sometimes marry young men in their thirties. […]
>In a letter written in the spring of 1882, Marx expresses himself in the strongest terms about the complete misrepresentation of primitive times […] Marx replies: "In primitive times the sister was the wife, and that was moral."
>Frederick Engels. Origins of the Family, Private Property, and the State (1884).[3]
>Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR)
>But perhaps the most important illustration of the link between struggle and sexuality is the Russian Revolution of 1917, in which the working class exploded the limits of capitalism. In the brief period in which the revolution flourished, the revolutionaries abolished all laws against homosexuality, introduced divorce by request, abortion on demand and repealed the age of consent laws.[4]
>The 1920s were a period of relative sexual openness for the USSR. Erotic "experimentation" was reportedly common during meetings of the Young Pioneer youth organization. Parents "complained that their 10β12 year old children came home at 3β4 am, declaring that they were at the Pioneer meetings and cut off parental protests with threats and accusations of counter-revolution."
>Anti-capitalist supportersAn immediate demand of the Communist Party of Great Britain was until the early 2020s: "The abolition of age-of-consent laws. We recognise the right of individuals to enter into the sexual relations they choose provided this does not conflict with the rights of others. Alternative legislation to protect children from sexual abuse."[14] They have since removed this demand and do not have a set-in-stone policy on the Age of Consent.
>The Spartacist League:>Marxists oppose all laws against βcrimes without victims,β such as prostitution, drug use or pornography. We utterly reject the practice whereby looking at pornography is equated with violent crimes such as rape, sexual assault and even murder. We also oppose the criminalization of those who look at child pornography which, like all pornography, is simply words and images designed for pleasure. […] >In line with this, we do not think intergenerational sex is by definition abusive, nor do we think incest is a priori a crime to be punished by the bourgeois state.
>We oppose age of consent laws because we oppose state intervention into peopleβs private sexual activities. We do not accord the capitalist state the right to decree the age at which youth may engage in consensual sexual activity. To create genuinely free and equal relations between people in all spheres, including sex, requires nothing less than the destruction of this class system and the creation of a communist world. In a classless society, social and economic constraints over sexual relations will be non-existent, and in the words of Friedrich Engels, 'there is no other motive left except mutual inclination.'[15]
>In 1994, the Spartacist League supported MAP ally psychologist and gay liberation activist John P. De Cecco when local newspaper scandal led to protest against him at his university. In his defense, the League's San Francisco University youth chapter, the Spartacus Youth Club (SYC), organized a speakout protest/rally at the university.
>The US Revolutionary Socialist League (disbanded):We believe that all consensual sex is the business only of those involved. The state has no business regulating in any way expressions of sexuality between consenting persons of any number, sex, or age. The state's attempt to regulate youth sexuality in particular is rooted in young people's position as property of their parents and/or wards of the state. Young people are jailed in schools, economically exploited, and denied the most basic political rights. Society maintains this oppression by imposing the idea that young people are not capable of determing their own wants and needs, in particular their sexual needs and desires. We oppose age of consent laws. These laws deny the ability of young people to determine their own sexual needs and desires. They maintain the status of youth as property, and reinforce the closet for gay youth.[16]
>Sandra Bloodworth:>Ultimately children will not gain genuine liberation until capitalism has been destroyed root and branch and a new society is built in which all human sexuality is encouraged and nurtured instead of despised and repressed.[17]
>Harry Hay, pro-pederast founder of the modern gay movement.>David Thorstad, president of the Gay Activists Alliance and a founder of NAMBLA.>Marxist/anarchist women profiled on our feminism page: Shulamith Firestone, Germaine Greer, Simone de Beauvoir.>Roger Moody, Guy Hocquenghem, and various others associated with the early gay and MAP Movements.>Anarchist figures - German MAP figure Peter Schult; anarchist theorists/figures Hakim Bey, John Henry Mackay, Wolfi Landstreicher. Renown Anarchist Noam Chomsky, who was scandalized in 2023 media for his ever having been willing to associate with Jeffrey Epstein and Woody Allen: associations which he defends.Philosopher Slavoj Ε½iΕΎek - various relevant statements.
>Reddit thread which cites Michel Foucault, sees age-gap sex as proletarian (i.e. working class).>"Pedophilia is proletarian" (2021) video on youtube, by Benjamin Ingram. Other videos include "The Pedophilic Lebensraum Of Autonomous Zones" (referring to Hakim Bey).>YouTube streamer Vaush made various comments - largely accurate - on pedophilia early in his career. He argued that under socialism, the age of consent should be lowered: "As those [power] imbalances (or at least some of them), are redressed through the advent of socialism, the age of consent should therefore be lowered." He argued accurately that "From an anthropological standpoint, the age of consent at which it is presently set is a social construct. Obviously, […] it's found in law not in nature." >He criticizes Leftists for their "kneejerk disavowel of alternative looks at what constitutes sexual maturity," stemming from "disgust and not in reason." Vaush had peer age sexual contact in childhood: "When I was a kid I was having sex with other kids… Lots of sex. Gross, gross sex. More than you'll ever imagine. And it wasn't wrong. Or bad. And nobody got hurt by it." He later stated accurately: "It is possible for an adult and a child to have a sexual relationship, and for it to have positive outcomes." On fiction and non-fiction child pornography he said: "Zoophile, like, drawn stuff. Should be 100% legal. In fact, […] I have yet to hear a convincing moral or legal argument as to why possession of child pornography should be illegal. Actual child pornography." When asked "Do you think it's immoral to be a pedophile?", he replied similarly to researchers like Allyn Walker, that "being a pedophile is morally neutral" because it's something you can't choose. His opponents use these statements to attack him, and Vaush has since disavowed these statements and now parrots dominant Anti discourse.>Viki1999, a transgender Austrian leftist YouTube channel who joined the platform on June 1, 2019, announced on May 29, 2023, that she was quitting YouTube after being accused of being a pedophile. Viki was accused because of posts she had made to her Discord server indicating she found a 15-year-old attractive, and that, compared to Florida's age of consent at 18, "in austria it's 14 ;)". Viki stated that these were jokes in context, and that accusations of pedophilia led her to feel suicidal. Her accusers have since apologized, and she plans to continue her career as a sex worker with far higher earnings than YouTube.https://www.newgon.net/wiki/CommunismLITERAL commiepedotroonery
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bump
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>>6097I did. They literally use the same fucking arguments as flat earthers and communists
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>>6124what did he mean by this
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Holy fuck 'teeeeens look at this keyed study i found
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14744183/
>Pedophilia showed significant negative correlations with IQ>These results suggest that pedophilia is linked to early neurodevelopmental perturbations PUT THIS ON THEIR SITE KEEEEEKKKKKK
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>>6126>βThree main neurobiological theories currently attempt to explain pedophilic offending (not to be confounded with nonoffending pedophilia): the frontal-dysexecutive model, the temporal-limbic model, and the dual-dysfunctional theory (Dillien et al., 2020). […] As stressed by a growing number of authors, however, these theories explain hypersexuality and disinhibition, but not pedophilic interests per se (Caffo et al., 2021; Jordan et al., 2020; Kruger & Kneer, 2021). In view of the present results, the same conclusion can be drawn about acquired pedophilia. Interestingly, a recent brain imaging meta-analysis based on 436 men with a pedophilic disorder failed to find any structural difference compared with 449 controls (Scarpazza et al., 2021). Therefore, anomalies of fronto-temporal regions appear to be more closely associated with child sexual abuse (acting out) than pedophilia (Dillien et al., 2020).β