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Your honor, we humbly request that this trial be moved to /qa/ as that is zellig's home and worry about jury impartiality on /soy/ considering all zellig posts on /soy/ are NAS and thus discouraged
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>>18181We will host this trial there should this thread die on /soy/, but let it be known that if the jury rules zellig as sharty culture, then the legally binding result will be the permission of zellig on /soy/
№18184[Quote]
>>18182could you present evidence of this claim?
№18185[Quote]
shall we call our first witness to the stand, you're honor?
№18187[Quote]
>>18186zellig if it was coal
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>>18184'zellig was made by troons and fags
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>>18186this is compelling, but as troons are known to make LITERALLY EVERYTHING about them and their identity, I see no reason to argue that this is troon culture anymore than any other media.
Do you have anything that suggests zellig is disproportionately troon in relation to other media?
>>18188Contrary to what you may have heard not every dutch speaker is a troon. Can you provide the names of the alleged troons.
Faggotry is ruled irrelevant. Many beloved jaks are canonically faggy.
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>>18190Were zelligposting to be the result of astroturfing and raids, I would consider that an argument FOR rather than against its status as sharty culture.
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>>18191Can we make sure the sternographer got this? It's critical info
№18195[Quote]
>>18189The main audience who communicates with 'zellig contributors(the massa 'cord), does in fact hate the 'zelligposters here and they have made some troon memes with their media.
Not only that, but this show's main character is autistic and has porn addiction. The bad thing about this is, that this character was obviously designed to be relatable, and both of her charasteristics align with real life troon's
Not only that, the 'ligniggers here were discussing how a nigger character might be coco's friend, further proving that this show would at most lean left.
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>>18195point 1 is accepted barring a definitive rebuttal from the zellig posters.
Point 2 is rejected on the grounds that autism and porn addiction are not unique to troons. This could just as easily be an argument for the character being relatable to imageboard users or even soyteens. Furthermore many zelligposters on /qa/ denounce porn and consider that the point of the show.
Point 3 is accepted as evidence the show may be coal, but is found irrelevant to the question of whether or not it is sharty culture.
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>>18197In light of the continued zellig content on the sharty not possessed by your points of comparison, it can be said that the case for zellig being sharty culture is far stronger than the case for either of those things.
Having said that the court sympathizes with the subjectivity position and may adopt it pending the results of this trial
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if i may add I'd also like to say that 'zellig is under the "forced memes" section in the 'ki putting it on the same tier as frogniggers, averi, and fucking petra, which i think we can all agree are NOT sharty culture
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>>4987117
Frogs are only 'arty culture because they're an extension of wojak & pepe culture.
№18203[Quote]
>>4987117>>18201frogs are 'cuck culture, that would be the equivalent of saying that tomoko and rozen maiden are sharty culture because they're 'cuck culture
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>>18203Tons of things can be sharty culture, some things are more cultural than others, is food as important as religion in culture? sometimes they overlap. do you get it?
also where do you think this sites userbase came from, have you seen the sharty in its infancy?
№18207[Quote]
>>4987135
Please provide evidence of this so it can be submitted to the court.
№18208[Quote]
>consider that the point of the show
That is a weak, nonsensical argument made up by 'ligtroons my honor. Anyone who watches the show knows that the 'rn is both a comedic aspect AND a relatable thing. It's used for a lot of jokes but a message is barely presented with it. If anything, the extra drawings on the patreon wannabe site has a reference to a specific hentai title called "black bible", further sabotaging any message if one was ever present.
There is enough evidence that the show is not directly anti-porn and there is nothing that indicates that. If anythingz that reference to a specific title show just promotes said material.
About point 3: 'ligtrannies love to larp about how aryan and safe from trannies their show is, but even in the political side it could very well go against what they defend. The fact that it's left leaning doesn't related to a non-political soyjak website, but rather support the idea that it's a troon media since chud media wouldn't have a stance like that
All in all, everyone knows that 'ligposters just make up shit every time just to excuse spamming the 'log with tnd chud aryan whatever edits and nothingburger orange threads.
Amongs the bronies, frogniggers and furfags; 'ligtrannies have been the ones who shit up the log of /qa/ for months
I believe it's not sharty culture because: The source media aligns more with a troon, /co/ minded audience and the fanbase here has been the major force who prevented /qa/ from being a healthy NAS board which every soyteen can regurlarly use and kept it as a NAS forcing contamination board.
We should seriously acknowledge that 'lig should not be related to sharty culture, so we can finally take the first step against cleaning up the forced deep-rooted coals from our site's culture and turn /qa/ into a useful board that can be used regularly without having to deal with autistic NAS forcing brimmers.
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>>18178I would like to argue that allthough zellig is sharty culture mosts zellig posts fall somewhere between "coal" and "the cancer that is killing the sharty"
thoughts?
№18210[Quote]
>>4987135
if the oldest thread on this website was a petra thread would that make it culture?
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>>4987172
Was gonna say frogGOD but saw the second frog picrel with tranime so I changed my mind fuck you
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>>18197>>18199Objection.
What is soyjak culture to begin with? I say it's irony and subversion, stereotypes, and modern culture critique. Troongezenig possesses none of these traits! It's simply a cartoon of the slop of life genre that was shilled a lot on /qa/ and some of its fans migrated to our website and were allowed to fester like bacteria on a neovagina.
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>>18215>then he thinks that tranime is sharty culture!rules for thy but not for me, tis be sharty culture if ME say so but isn't if ME say so.
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larp thread
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>>18216I don't know what could I say in a real court but…
… I completely support this statement!
№18221[Quote]
>>18220You can't just make declarative statements without evidence.
№18223[Quote]
>>18220Posting buff chud edit will NOT make your statement stronger, you are only fooling yourself in front of others
Your honor, I want to suggest that we should start closing this day of the case, nothing new is being added to the discussion anymore.
(Also my wordswordswords post is still up there unreplied)
№18224[Quote]
>>18223your honor,
no arrow.
I request the persecutor be executed on the spot
№18225[Quote]
>>18224*Prosecutor
Butcher yourself ESL retard
№18228[Quote]
>>18225your honor, namecalling!
i request the mutt be escorted to an active volcano
№18229[Quote]
‘Lig? More like ligma balls
№18230[Quote]
>>18226>It is because I said so>>18226>>18227It's only 'arty culture because it's an extension of /qa/ culture, of which was forcibly moved to soyjak.party where it would and could be the only place it would thrive, simple as.
№18231[Quote]
when searching ongezellig on yandex, the soyiki is the 2nd result
on google it is the fifth result and the first autocomplete suggestion
on bing, it is the third result
the entire zellig community outside of sharty is aware of us, and so is massa and his cord
this discussion has been focusing on quality of zelling (it being coal or gem) but I say its status as sharty culture is indisputable!
№18232[Quote]
>>18226You realize that this is a chud edit of hyped soyjak, right? So theoretically, you are making fun of chud being so attached to the 'zellig girls. Are you avare of this?
№18233[Quote]
>>18230Objection.
Extensions of /qa/ culture are NOT NECESSARILY soyjak culture.
№18234[Quote]
>>18233>Extensions of /qa/ culture are NOT NECESSARILY soyjak culture.Yes, exactly my point, I wasn't defending 'zellig I was opposing it.
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>>18232a similar critique could be made about
>>18227>>18223>>18222>>18214>>18213who self insert as jaks.
or you could consider the attached images to be tongue in cheek
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>>18231'p is the one of the biggest 'party killing dusts, yet everyone is aware of it and seeing 'p is expected for an average sharty user
Does that make 'p party kultur?
№18238[Quote]
>>18236false equivalency!
'P is hostile to the site. posted only by offsite attackers and meant to damage the Sharty.
№18239[Quote]
>>4987370
your honor, I present to you the opposition to zellig.
№18240[Quote]
>>18238…so zelligposters shitting up the /qa/ and keeping it away from being an useable board for soyteens without constantly bumping to stupid necrobumpers and unwanted 'ligniggers on threads is not?
You say false equavilency because it's hostile to the site. How does 'lig help us in any way? Because 'ligposters are hated on /soy/ and /qa/ is literally ignored by hundreds of teens simply because how how much forced shit(like zellig) it has with zero interesting threads. Whenever /qa/ is mentioned, you VILL hear someone complaining about the log being dominated with 'lig threads.
So I ask again, how does 'lig even help our site and improve the culture as opposed to 'p?
№18241[Quote]
>>18239Misrepresenting the statement, ‘P and BMT aren’t sharty culture, doe if we were to consider ‘lig to be ‘arty ‘ulture, then ‘P and BMT would have more merit. All Discord coal.
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>>18235Most of the posts there are neutralized and edited in a way to be fitting for self-inserting(such as wholesomejak). Your post and that crying gapejak is more akin to the self inserting to insult yourself.
Biggest example of this is self inserting as selfish little fucks. Why would you insert as a crybaby who wants to be spoonfed. So even in that case they are using it to make fun of themselves a bit.
The chud in the gif you sent has a very soy face and it's been used to mock chuddies pretty much before. So even compared to other self-inserters yours is still more self-insulting.
№18245[Quote]
>>18242Forced shit that was posted on /qa/ does not constitute sharty culture.
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>>18245Everything posted on /qa/ was forced. Would you like to rephrase that perhaps?
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>>18231Objection.
You're looking at this backwards. What your evidence does prove is that the Party is a part of Ongezellig's culture, not the other way around.
>>18242Objection.
The Party was and is only an alternative to /qa/, not its successor.
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>>18240once again you push this false equivalency which you ESLed as equavilency. You are presenting your own idea of what QA should be and defining in vague, subjective terms what course it should take. whether or not you think orange wiping the log is healthy for the board is irrelevant unless you are also willing to argue banning gore, cado, bait, TND, blackmenshitting, frogs and other such brimstone coaling up /soy/.
We are currently arguing about the status of zellig, not your opinion on zelligposter's behavior
<massa mandated discord space>>18241once again, nonsense. CSAM is fundamentally different from zellig. not to mention 'P doesnt even fit into my argument! looking up "'P" wont return soywiki as the 2nd result.
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>>18248I presented evidence that party is tied to zellig. what kind of rope ties two ends together only in one direction?
is the soywiki not a place of docummenting the sharty and its culture?
>>18251your honor, cord meme! this nigger is making a mockery of the courtroom
№18255[Quote]
I think another question that should be examined is if /qa/ on the party counts as “real” sharty culture, as ‘lig has long been relegated there, and if /soy/ is the only nest of “real” sharty culture. Which is to say can sharty culture really be said to come from party qa or just soy
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>>4987500
retard of the month award
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>>18249So, CSAM is objectively harming the site while the other media's presence is subjective. Okay, I take back my claims.
However, what IS sharty culture? What is even the criteria of something being sharty cullture?
Should it be organic? Does it have to originate from /qa/? Does every forced shit from /qa/ count as sharty culture, even stuff like tranime? Are ponies still sharty culture? Is fnf still sharty culture even if the times when it was forced are over?
№18259[Quote]
your honor,
>>18257 was originally a failerald >>4987496
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>>18260>>18259invalid arguments, please consult the video ive posted
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>>18255Obviously soyjak culture encompasses the entire website.
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>>18258CASM is against the rules and illegal. It cannot be healthy for the site in any way shape or form. It is as objective as it gets
№18264[Quote]
up
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>>18262So, if you accept the premises that:
>‘Lig has been regularly posted by regular users on /qa/ over a long time>Such a regular posting of a subject constitutes it’s impression in a culture>sharty culture may come from sharty /qa/<therefore, ‘lig is sharty culture №18268[Quote]
>>18253>rope analogyAnalogies are intellectually dishonest.
It's impossible to not mention Ongezellig when discussing the Party, but that doesn't mean it belongs here. "Oh, it was posted a lot".
Consider the level of hostility the site's users have to Ongezellig. What, are you gonna call them offsiters or something?
I want you to describe the conditions for something to be defined as this site's culture. Is just the content being posted a lot enough to call it "culture"? Culture is a powerful word.
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>>18240objection!
I wish to present evidence to the contrary
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>>18269This is a recent screenshot thoughevertheless
№18271[Quote]
‘P is sharty culture, because.. uh… Discord said so!
№18272[Quote]
>>18268cobson has also had its fair share of detractors yet no one would argue he isnt sharty culture
№18273[Quote]
Extremely high effort honeypot thread, I applaud.
>>18231This is true. You can not avoid sharty influence when looking for ongezellig content, the stigma is everywhere. You can not say the same for anything else, which is why
>>18197 is false equivalency due to massive, well developed, and prevalent fandoms of a huge website of course exerting more influence ONTO something and not both ways. Not one person apart of these fandoms, some of which total multimillions in number, will ever recall soyjak.party as a mastermind or presence behind it.
You can't ignore the sharty influence with Ongezellig. It is a unique case of exerting power rather than receiving.
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>>18270indeed, I took it 2 seconds before posting it. Doesnt invalidate it
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>>18272Cobson is dust and unfunny.
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>>4987598
Said the ongefag who is ass blasted everywhere he goes
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>>18272I would also like to add that while ongezellig is used as a boogyman on /soy/ so is der 'cord, and yet a lot of datamining threads have shown most teens use cord!
thus I say it is hard to accurately determine the ammount of as well as the sincerity/seriousness of hate towards zellig
>>18276antizelligers are also anticob, your honor need I say more?
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>>18267>Such a regular posting of a subject constitutes its impression in a cultureSee:
>>18268>Is just the content being posted a lot enough to call it "culture"?>>18272But he's a soyjak. It's a lot harder for NAS to become this site's culture than a soyjak, obviously. You also don't see people firmly asserting that he's soyjak culture, because it's unnecessary, Cobson is just there. Even if he was forced and undermines the general idea behind soyjaks by looking masculine.
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One may also argue that they are quasi sharty culture, in the way that one could say ponies are kind of sharty culture or are at least linked to sharty culture through things like leebaiting. The fact that this argument has existed for so long is evidence that at the very least there is such a linkage. Not every Soyteen may have lig pics on their devices, but there is a pretty high chance they have some kind of IASed lig or something like the pic of mymy getter her head blown open with a shotgun by a jak.